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Can't carry lower elo playing support
It's too hard
Low elo is easy to carry, play psychologic game and mid/top or something.
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As far as the poking <--> farming thing goes, you can try to master the art of farming AND poking with the same ability. This can be a little tricky, but if you're playing many champions with AOE spells who don't use a whole lot of mana, you can pull it off. It's basically just farming with an AOE ability, while that ability hits the opposing laner. Lets say you're Vladimir. You keep your E stacks up, and approach his minions wave to clear it, or kill some of them with your E. Getting a sense of how long it's range is, you can sometimes make the E hit the opposing laner, while not sacrificing cs, which is obviously beneficial for you in every possible way. Except that you're pushing, but that's just one of the things that you have to live with as a Vladimir player biggrin.gif
Hope this helped a little cheers.gif

I know you used Vlad only as an example, but I love to use Vlad to freeze top lane right in front of my tower. It is important to know who you can and can't do this to.

What is it, 12 or 13 CS equals one kill? I have easily gotten 40 to 80 cs up on people. How many times did I just kill them without actually having to kill them wink.gif?
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I know you used Vlad only as an example, but I love to use Vlad to freeze top lane right in front of my tower. It is important to know who you can and can't do this to.
What is it, 12 or 13 CS equals one kill? I have easily gotten 40 to 80 cs up on people. How many times did I just kill them without actually having to kill them wink.gif?

Yeah, I think they normally say 12 CS. But that's only an estimate, of course. If you only kill the big siege minion thing, it's statistically only 8 cs or something for one kill biggrin.gif
 
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sona also isn't a passive support, her entire kit is based around aggressiveness.

There are different types of aggressive, though. There's the Graves+Leona type aggressive where you go balls-deep in order to burst from 80% health to 0, and there's the Sona+Corki type aggressive where you miss a few CS and risk taking some damage in order to poke to the point where you can use a smaller burst to burst from 50% health to 0. I'm getting used to a Corki+Sona type aggressive (poke champions are my favourite to play), but burst champions (Graves+Leona) just don't seem to suit the way I like to play.
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Yeah, I think they normally say 12 CS. But that's only an estimate, of course. If you only kill the big siege minion thing, it's statistically only 8 cs or something for one kill biggrin.gif

Ya a lot of people don't realize that they are losing the lane very badly even though there have been no kills or the towers are equal, thats why cs is the most important thing in every lane.
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dont forget that when you force someone to blue pill, or kill them, that not only are you getting CS, they are MISSING CS.
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dont forget that when you force someone to blue pill, or kill them, that not only are you getting CS, they are MISSING CS.

What's blue pill?
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What's blue pill?
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What's blue pill?

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blue pill, slang for recalling. also known as "backing", "b", "b'ing", "rtb", etc

it's a reference to the choice in the matrix, where the "red pill" took you out of the matrix and showed you everything, but if you took the blue pill, it sent you back.
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