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Went mid as Caitlyn today.

My team started calling me a troll and such.

I proceeded to carry the game 16/6

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As a mid, you should have 300 cs by 25 min in if you play well enough.
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Lol no. That much CS is exceptional and pretty much indicates you've only gone back like once or twice and have had no time to roam whatsoever and you are certainly stealing only wraiths but at least enemy wraiths/friendly wolves as well.
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No, it's easily possible as an AP mid with wraiths and fast lane.

As AD carry or top no.

Unless you are playing those games where you roam a ton.

Perspectives at CS.
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if you push for 300cs by the 25minute mark, you're most likely going to get zero ganks, and will probably die a few times because of how hard you'll have to be pushing the lane. if you aren't a pro, just go for 10/min (including wraiths or wolves, 10cs/min is the best possible with just lane creeps).
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Sure, but the general scenario for both lanes is to keep the minions wave somewhat in the middle. For champions like Evelynn and Nocturne, it often doesn't matter how deep you ward into the jungle, when they gank the way they do. Sure, pushing the lane can be beneficial for the team, but that's not always the case.

That is certain situations, where they have a global ult, or as eve's visiblity, or an enemy has taken tp.
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That is certain situations, where they have a global ult, or as eve's visiblity, or an enemy has taken tp.

Almost all champions have ways to get past wards. Mostly, just re-pathing if you walk one way and they make it obvious that you have a ward place. Unless you buy a bunch of wards and have them all placed for all the routes to mid lane, you will be able to get ganked, you just have to keep control of where the minions are in your lane and not to push too hard.



Just a quick route picture i made, shows how many ways you can get around wards. I know some of them are a bit crazy going all the way around but the main point is, there are many ways. (Purple team is ganking a blue team middle laner in the pick)
Edited by Ali67219 - 11/12/12 at 9:05pm
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Almost all champions have ways to get past wards. Mostly, just re-pathing if you walk one way and they make it obvious that you have a ward place. Unless you buy a bunch of wards and have them all placed for all the routes to mid lane, you will be able to get ganked, you just have to keep control of where the minions are in your lane and not to push too hard.

Just a quick route picture i made, shows how many ways you can get around wards. I know some of them are a bit crazy going all the way around but the main point is, there are many ways. (Purple team is ganking a blue team middle laner in the pick)

That is why it's only bot/top lanes that should do it. Mid is mainly used by ap champs, because they are usually the ones with no easy escape mechanism and the mid lane is the shortest lane.

Also if they go all the way around, they are going into your jungle running the risk of being found by your jungler.
Edited by Dehatitated - 11/12/12 at 9:39pm
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That is why it's only bot/top lanes that should do it. Mid is mainly used by ap champs, because they are usually the ones with no easy escape mechanism and the mid lane is the shortest lane.
Also if they go all the way around, they are going into your jungle running the risk of being found by your jungler.

Bot and top should do what? And also i know it is risky to go in their jungle but for example if their jungler is at top, you can probably go around a bit from the bottom side.
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Bot and top should do what? And also i know it is risky to go in their jungle but for example if their jungler is at top, you can probably go around a bit from the bottom side.

By it I meant pushing a lane, as that is what i was talking about in the previous posts, sorry for not being clear. Yes you could go around but the extra time and exp/gold loss means, if you fail to get a kill, the loss even without a death will be significantly larger.

To sum up all my posts, pushing a lane can be beneficial in certain situations on the bottom or top lanes, but only if precautions are taken and the enemy team does not have any global ult, teleport or stealth. Because you will ease jungle presence off of other lanes, make your enemy loose cs because of the tower, increase your own farm, and when you finally blue pill, you won't have to worry about pressure on your tower as it will be freshly pushed.
Edited by Dehatitated - 11/12/12 at 11:53pm
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