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So, which skin should I buy? Officer Caitlyn or Arctic Warfare Caitlyn? I cant decide and I need help biggrin.gif

I would say officer caitlyn, if you have a friend that is support then they can grab the longhorn alistar skin, so you two can both be cowboys (cowgirl caitlyn).
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haha the new dominion meta is:

riven+3 black cleavers, brutalizer, ghostblade, and boots of your liking.
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at most i would build two for the stats and quicker debuff stacking, but other than that, no reason to. im guessing the passive not being unique was on purpose, since more than 1 is really a waste. just builld a PD and a BT, and you'll have much more damage than just 3 cleavers.

look again, at least before it's nerfed to the floor.

remember, the base 15 armor redunktion is GLOBAL.
1 person with 3 cleavers: 15+15+15=45.
Now let's say everyone on your team has a black cleaver, plus your three.
45+15+15+15+15=105 armor redunktion.

Mind you this is before your instant 30% redunktion cleaver procs.

Add on to that ANY masteries and runes you have for armor penetration.
Essentially, every hit to someone >/=105 armor is true damage.

Now test this on someone menacingly tanky...
Take a close look at their armor!

If I can burst down Darius/Malphite/Jax/You name it in 3 hits with Riven and Kha'Zix, something is hilariously wrong wink.gif

vayne's passive... only free

Should also be noted this setup only works on AD burst champs.
Edited by hollowtek - 12/6/12 at 1:31am
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Originally Posted by hollowtek View Post

haha the new dominion meta is:

riven+3 black cleavers, brutalizer, ghostblade, and boots of your liking.
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Originally Posted by Darkling5499 View Post

at most i would build two for the stats and quicker debuff stacking, but other than that, no reason to. im guessing the passive not being unique was on purpose, since more than 1 is really a waste. just builld a PD and a BT, and you'll have much more damage than just 3 cleavers.

look again, at least before it's nerfed to the floor.

remember, the base 15 armor redunktion is GLOBAL.
1 person with 3 cleavers: 15+15+15=45.
Now let's say everyone on your team has a black cleaver, plus your three.
45+15+15+15+15=105 armor redunktion.

Mind you this is before your instant 30% redunktion cleaver procs.

Add on to that ANY masteries and runes you have for armor penetration.
Essentially, every hit to someone >/=105 armor is true damage.

Now test this on someone menacingly tanky...
Take a close look at their armor!

If I can burst down Darius/Malphite/Jax/You name it in 3 hits with Riven and Kha'Zix, something is hilariously wrong wink.gif

vayne's passive... only free

Should also be noted this setup only works on AD burst champs.
Too many Teeto-shrooms or something? kookoo.gif

1st off, the 15 flat armor reduction ISN'T global. WTH?!? The old one had 15 armor reduction, the new one has 7.5%(?) armor reduction per hit. The passive is capped at 4 so all you gain from stacking BC is the stats and the fact that you can apply the passive faster, even though Riven already applies the full passive in a very short period of time with her Q, W and autos.
If everyone in your team has a BC, you're probably playing around 200elo. No kidding.

There's no way you could burst down any champ down in 3 hits as Riven, no matter what items you have. Anyone who doesn't stack armor against Riven is doing it wrong since she has ridiculous AD ratios on her skills and with her ult she can finish people off VERY fast.

The new BC is a blessing though since now you can actually upgrade your Brutalizer into something remotely useful, even though I still prefer LW on Riven damage wise since you'll get the max armor pen with every attack instead of 5th attack on BC (and let's be honest here, 5th attack on Riven usually means that the target is already way under 50% hp which means that it's almost Wind Slash -time).
BC is good if you have lots of AD champs in your team, and no one else has it.

Boots+3 -> (Dorans) -> Brutalizer -> BT/Hydra -> GA/Health -> LW/BC -> BT/Hydra/GA/Health
That's my basic build and Riven has been my fav champ since I started playing the game. Masteries obviously 21/9/0 (or maybe up to the new block mastery on defence tree, will have to do some research on it).

TL;DR What have you been smoking?

PS. forgot to add this, you REALLY need to find out the difference between Armor penetration and reduction.
Edited by Blizlake - 12/6/12 at 4:46am
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Too many Teeto-shrooms or something? kookoo.gif
1st off, the 15 flat armor reduction ISN'T global. WTH?!? The old one had 15 armor reduction, the new one has 7.5%(?) armor reduction per hit. The passive is capped at 4 so all you gain from stacking BC is the stats and the fact that you can apply the passive faster, even though Riven already applies the full passive in a very short period of time with her Q, W and autos.
If everyone in your team has a BC, you're probably playing around 200elo. No kidding.
There's no way you could burst down any champ down in 3 hits as Riven, no matter what items you have. Anyone who doesn't stack armor against Riven is doing it wrong since she has ridiculous AD ratios on her skills and with her ult she can finish people off VERY fast.
The new BC is a blessing though since now you can actually upgrade your Brutalizer into something remotely useful, even though I still prefer LW on Riven damage wise since you'll get the max armor pen with every attack instead of 5th attack on BC (and let's be honest here, 5th attack on Riven usually means that the target is already way under 50% hp which means that it's almost Wind Slash -time).
BC is good if you have lots of AD champs in your team, and no one else has it.
Boots+3 -> (Dorans) -> Brutalizer -> BT/Hydra -> GA/Health -> LW/BC -> BT/Hydra/GA/Health
That's my basic build and Riven has been my fav champ since I started playing the game. Masteries obviously 21/9/0 (or maybe up to the new block mastery on defence tree, will have to do some research on it).
TL;DR What have you been smoking?
PS. forgot to add this, you REALLY need to find out the difference between Armor penetration and reduction.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2869703
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2152948
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2864057
here you go

Also look up posts from Sauron. Riot knows about this and it was intentional at first until they realized the epic scale of OP BC's were causing. trust me, taking 95% of teemo's hp with 1 Q is pretty funny.

I won't stoop to your level, but when you kill a fully fed darius with 3 hits, something is seriously wrong.

finally, learn to do some research my friend.
Edited by hollowtek - 12/6/12 at 5:40am
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What's up ladies? Long time no see. Been on a break from LoL and curious what's new and how you guys like the changes. Too lazy to read patch notes right now, and can't get to the site at work anyways haha. Well back to actually doing work. Oh yeah, anyone playing Black Ops 2 for 360? If so PM me and maybe we can play sometime biggrin.gif
    
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2869703
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2152948
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2864057
here you go

Also look up posts from Sauron. Riot knows about this and it was intentional at first until they realized the epic scale of OP BC's were causing. trust me, taking 95% of teemo's hp with 1 Q is pretty funny.

I won't stoop to your level, but when you kill a fully fed darius with 3 hits, something is seriously wrong.

finally, learn to do some research my friend.
I still don't get what you mean. The debuffs don't stack, the stats are ok. How do you take 95% of teeto's hp with 1 Q?
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Just played last night with all the new changes....WHOA was I surprised when I played a ranked game as Irelia top and realized half my items were missing. I used to start with boots then build Heart of Gold for laning sustain and the add gold. But no more Heart of Gold. And I see they removed Madreds Bloodrazor too...
Anyone here have any suggestions on a New Irelia Top Build with the new items? Also...what do you use for Masteries? I feel I can go either 21/9/0 more of a tank masteries...but with the new Mastery set I'm now conflicted even more.
Curious as to others thoughts
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Just played last night with all the new changes....WHOA was I surprised when I played a ranked game as Irelia top and realized half my items were missing. I used to start with boots then build Heart of Gold for laning sustain and the add gold. But no more Heart of Gold. And I see they removed Madreds Bloodrazor too...
Anyone here have any suggestions on a New Irelia Top Build with the new items? Also...what do you use for Masteries? I feel I can go either 21/9/0 more of a tank masteries...but with the new Mastery set I'm now conflicted even more.
Curious as to others thoughts
Thanks

Ya i hate how they took out a lot of items that were part of main builds. Im not sure about a new build for anyone, let alone irelia.
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So i played my firts games last night and i must say.. Amumu is still OP as crap lol. I just ignored the HoG in my build and just moved on to the next item and it didnt phase me at all! i won 2 out of 3 games last night which i though was pretty good since i dont take change well.. rolleyes.gif

Also i noticed that teemo is still pretty stronk with his AP BS.. but thats about it i think
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So i played my firts games last night and i must say.. Amumu is still OP as crap lol. I just ignored the HoG in my build and just moved on to the next item and it didnt phase me at all! i won 2 out of 3 games last night which i though was pretty good since i dont take change well.. rolleyes.gif
Also i noticed that teemo is still pretty stronk with his AP BS.. but thats about it i think

Whenever i play teemo, i beat any champion top, i think its just me because i main adc and he is like one.
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