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Started playing a Riven marathon of sorts after I heard that they'll be "nerfing" her next patch. (not sure how big a nerf since they halve her hp/5 but buff E a bit.)
So far I'm 7/2 on matches, only lost top once (hard, to a Darius and his buttbuddy jungler).
Thank god I was purple side so I could farm golems when I got scared of the Heca. Mid kata raped and we won that one too.
post #12912 of 17789
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Started playing a Riven marathon of sorts after I heard that they'll be "nerfing" her next patch. (not sure how big a nerf since they halve her hp/5 but buff E a bit.)
So far I'm 7/2 on matches, only lost top once (hard, to a Darius and his buttbuddy jungler).
Thank god I was purple side so I could farm golems when I got scared of the Heca. Mid kata raped and we won that one too.
As long as they don't nerf any of the survivability she has, I think I should be fine.
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As long as they don't nerf any of the survivability she has, I think I should be fine.
What do you mean by "survivability"? I'd say her survivability went up as her shield got buffed, but laning phase took a major hit. Not sure if 10 points in shield is worth getting your hp/5 halved frown.gif This makes me sad since Riven has been my favourite almost the whole time I've played LoL.
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What do you mean by "survivability"? I'd say her survivability went up as her shield got buffed, but laning phase took a major hit. Not sure if 10 points in shield is worth getting your hp/5 halved frown.gif This makes me sad since Riven has been my favorite almost the whole time I've played LoL.
You have to take into account I have only played long enough to get to level 11 in the game. So the most I have even learned in the game is Annie and Riven. Playing both, I will say Riven definitely survives longer, but, if I am fight solo at top with someone with CCs, I don't last nearly as long because Riven is dependent on her cool-downs to escape from encounters. That isn't simple to do when you are frozen in place by CCs, like Irelia or Leona, or even silenced by another champion, like Cho'Gath, with his "W." That is what I mean when I say survivability. I just need to a little more practice when dealing with these sorts of enemies.
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You have to take into account I have only played long enough to get to level 11 in the game. So the most I have even learned in the game is Annie and Riven. Playing both, I will say Riven definitely survives longer, but, if I am fight solo at top with someone with CCs, I don't last nearly as long because Riven is dependent on her cool-downs to escape from encounters. That isn't simple to do when you are frozen in place by CCs, like Irelia or Leona, or even silenced by another champion, like Cho'Gath, with his "W." That is what I mean when I say survivability. I just need to a little more practice when dealing with these sorts of enemies.
Riiiiiight... Yeah, silence can be painful to Riven as she's so reliant on her abilities to deal damage. But tbh cc is deadly to any champ except maybe Poppy and Olaf (and Ire). The only thing you can do is learn to pick your fights. For example when laning as Riven against Garen, you should try to deal damage to him every time his Q is on cooldown and never fight him when it's up 'cause he'll just spin to win. Not too hard a matchup but requires some practice.
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Riiiiiight... Yeah, silence can be painful to Riven as she's so reliant on her abilities to deal damage. But tbh cc is deadly to any champ except maybe Poppy and Olaf (and Ire). The only thing you can do is learn to pick your fights. For example when laning as Riven against Garen, you should try to deal damage to him every time his Q is on cooldown and never fight him when it's up 'cause he'll just spin to win. Not too hard a matchup but requires some practice.
I have learned to deal with a few champions. I just need to keep playing and learn from experience. I have been playing normal matches with a few friends and I haven't done bad enough for it to be considered carried, but I haven't done great either.
post #12917 of 17789
the problem with riven is that she hard counters SO MANY CHAMPIONS, and is strong against basically every champ that gets regular top lane play except olaf and jax. once she gets a vamp scepter or a BT, you CAN NOT win trades with her as anyone but those two (i think garen and kennen do well as well, but you don't see garen too often, and kennen is usually mid). she outtrades everyone (including jayce / elise) and her burst once she hits 6 is insane, especially with the low CD her ulti has. on top of nerfing her hp/5 regen, i think her W (the stun) needs a damage nerf, it does so much damage and offers so much utility. riven has basically become S1 poppy. once she gets a kill under her belt, she snowballs out of control and you're forced to either camp top lane for the entire laning phase or lose the lane (and probably the game).

i've beat basically every top laner as riven. even olaf is beatable if you get an early kill and grab a quick giants belt to counter his E damage.
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post #12918 of 17789
I like running Mercury Treads > BT > BT > Frozen Mallet > Black Cleaver > Randuin's Omen. The BT (x2) are fun. :3
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As a Riven Olaf, Jax and Darius are the champs you should be careful with, it's definitely up to your skill difference and jungle pressure if you run into any of those 3. Teemo will be a major PITA after the hp5 nerf too unless you can punish that rat before lv6, and punish him good. But yeah, she can take so many toplaners it's crazy.
What I forgot about the nerfs was that they'll be increasing her ulti cooldown at lower levels (it'll be only 5sec longer when you have 3 points in it) which I think is reasonable considering how powerful she becomes after ulting.

my build differs a bit based on who I'm against, but start is usually boots+3 or long+2, only time I go cloth+5 is when I'm against someone I can't outtrade easily pre-6 (like olaf or xin). If I'm doing bad I get 1 or 2 doran blades but usually I just go straight to Brutalizer -> BT -> whatever item I need (like Maw/GA/Warmogs) -> LW/BT. Tier 2 boots will ALWAYS be mercs or Tabi, and tabi only if they don't have a lot of CC and they have AD jungle and top and/or mid. But yeah, it's an old joke that riven build goes boots + 4 BTs + GA.
If I were you (JRux), I'd get an early brutalizer and get a GA rather than Randuin's. You could also probably use a LW at some point, depending on enemy team obviously. If they don't build armor just get a hydra or BT biggrin.gif
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That is my usual build, like I had said, but I do switch off items depending on who I am facing at top. I do build Black Cleaver (which include the brutalizer), if I am facing heavier armored individuals. With the slows that Randuin has, it is helpful when mitigating damage and running from a fight you were pulled into. I use Doran Blades only when I need to, and that is usually when I a little behind and I need a bit more damage, but that usually only goes up to three Doran Blades at a time.
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