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I'd play with you but I rock solo top only. x.x

Better than nothing. I usually win my lanes but lately my lane wins mean nothing because the others lose. I did top a game as vi and went 18/6/15 and we still lost the game. So many bads. Add me, I am Snugglebites on LOL. Do you use Skype? I'm down to play after work in a few hours.
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This was taken at some point recently I guess. It has a few different ocn members playing in it. tongue.gif
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I have had to type this so many times due to my backspace keeps going back page losing this.

I hope this isn't hijacking the thread but here it is. For anyone in Australia, I am in a clan called AuV2 I joined it mainly to find others to play with that are in a similar time zone as me.

It is AuV2.net for anyone who wants to have a look I am DivinePwnGod on that site.
Edited by Dehatitated - 1/5/13 at 9:45pm
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wow it quad posted because i lost connection

Edit: two got deleted.
Edited by Dehatitated - 1/5/13 at 9:31pm
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I lost like 8 ranked games in a row because I am in Elo hell. Sitting at 950 and desperately need a duo partner. I am not bad I swear but losing 60 Elo a game hurts because of one bad player.

i stopped going ranked in season 2 because i went from gold elo to silver thanks to a patch where ~75% of my games i had a leaver / afk or troll feeder on my team.
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So. My 1100 elo buddy is 1800. My 2K elo buddy is 1100 and can't get out
Proves elo isn't what it seems. I'm sitting at 1400..... again and currently have like a 13-4-10 KD ratio and still lose my games because there is always just one teammate that literally throws the game.
Thats so true man thats the main reason y this game is so annoying
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i stopped going ranked in season 2 because i went from gold elo to silver thanks to a patch where ~75% of my games i had a leaver / afk or troll feeder on my team.

I lost 300 elo in 2 days, bad losing streak.
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Sorry if this is a rude wakeup call to those who still use ELO Hell as a excuse on why they are low ELO.

Origin :
The Term ELO Hell was once used to represent a person's status in their ELO Ranking. Back in the day, when you could not see your elo below 1200. ( You have no idea when you will get out at the rate )

Proper Use : Oh... you're in ELO Hell. Sucks to be you.
Improper Use : I'm in ELO Hell.

Nowadays everyone use the term ELO Hell to say that they are in a ELO that they do not belong in, meaning they think they belong in a higher ELO.

Why Are You Here??

This is a sickness of the mind. Those who think they do not belong at a ELO which they cannot leave is arrogant. I'm not going to say that i never thought I was never in ELO Hell. Before I got "good" I was around 1400 ELO and I always thought that I belonged in the 1800's~. Why? Because like most of you I tell myself that it was the other lane's fault because they fed and I went 12/2/7. Great score huh? so you lost with amazing score, that must means the other lanes fed and you couldn't do anything about it.

That fact that anyone would think it was another lane's fault that they had lost is the worst thing to think.
Reason 1 - It leads you to thinking: “Hmmm well I hope I get a better top lane next game”
Why is this a reason? You think this over and over again and yet you still manage to allow bad tops fail instead of learning from your past experience with top losing; you chose to wait ‘till you get a good top instead of helping top
Reason 2 - You're always going to end up with someone bad most of the time.
Why is this a reason? So let’s represent good people with head and bad people with tails( coins ). Since it is completely random for BOTH teams the chance of you getting a good team mate is same as bad. Seeing that you take up one space on the team and chance of getting good vs bad player are both the same you will end up on your team You + 2x good player + 2x bad player. And the opposing team the same between each game 3x good + 2x bad or 2x good + 3x bad.

Don't understand what I just said ? The next section will explain

What Are The Chances Of Winning?

This is the part where most of the debate will be and where I will be gaining all the hate from this thread. Because this is where I will be using math to explain to you why you (those of you that can no longer advance belong at that elo. Meaning that if you stopped gaining ELO, you’re probably at the ELO you are supposed to be at.

Let’s represent good player with 1 and bad player with 2 and you with X
Probability speaking you will be paired up with two good player and two bad player. Keep in mind that this equation only works over a long peroid of time because not every game you will end up with two good and two bad players. But mathematically speaking, over time the average will be two god and two bad per game. And how does this explain why I belong at which ELO? Consider the following Example.

Games before your destined ELO:
1+1+X+2+2 VS 1+1+1+2+2 ( OR ) 1+1+2+2+2
The likely outcome is that every game your opponent's comp swaps out but since this is before you destined ELO you will ALWAYS be a 1. So in Theory every other game is a guaranteed win while the mirror match up will be determined by how good each player are in the game. So this probably means you will win every other one of these games that are mirror match up. Meaning your ELO should be increasing because over a long period of time you will be winning every other game and the games in between are half and half. Sometime you will win 3 in a row and right after that a Win than Loss followed up by a Win. And the cycle continues so you win 3 more games in a row.
This Means in a 10 game survey playing against low ELO match up you should defiantly win 7-8 games on average. You’re thinking right now , “WOW thats a lot of chance for me to win so why am I not winning ? Is it because i'm playing at the ELO I should be ??? And Why do Pros not have 75% win rate???”

This is due to the fat that once you have achieved your ELO the equation flip flops. Once you have reached your destined ELO and are playing at your ELO's full capacity, your chance of winning the game is 50% ( I sure hope I don't need to explain why )
Pro's don't have this type of Win Ratio because once they reached 2k+ their win chance is pretty much 50-55% Depending on the good/bad standards of the game. But if you look at most of their smurfs that are playing in lower ELO than what they are destined for, their win ratio is VERY close to 75%~

Think about this in your head : How many people say they dropped several hundred ELO due to bad luck in solo que? How many people admit that they got carried up several hundred ELO due to luck in solo que? If you think about it hard enough you will come to realize that the chances of you being carried up 100 ELO is the same as down 100 ELO. Maybe you lose several hundred ELO because you got carried up not because you are being carried down but because of your bad team mate. And once you are at a ELO you don't belong in ( higher ) the equation flops
and now you’re losing 75% of your games.


So next time you lose a game, don't rage about it, think about it. What could you have done in order to win that game.


P.S. For those of you that say you are getting 12/2/10 score and are losing. You lost not because your other lanes lost. You lose because you were in-capable of aiding and assisting your other lanes in order to obtain victory. If you are watching pro team play and wonder why they don't gank. It's because team and solo que are completely different. In team all someone need to do is say mia and now top becomes ungankable. You need to take advantage of the fact that the other lanes have no idea that you are ganking and help the noob win the lane.

Sorry for the multitudes of grammatical errors and the amount of times I’ve gone off topic

Edited so it does not seem like those question are me complaining. Because some people don't take the time to read through the article.
Edited by RedRay81 - 1/6/13 at 6:24pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfu3Vmt7pJo

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What he said ^
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I feel like that video pretty much sums up what i see around here.
Also are you saying that is what I said or what the guy in the video said?

Because that is not even close to what I said.
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