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I just recently started playing ranked again because my "Elo" started dropping on its own due to inactivity and i went from Silver IV to Gold II in under two weeks. Been on a winning streak pretty much for the entire duration since ive started playing... Guess i finally got lucky for once.
Time doesn't impact your Elo/MMR anymore. Only your league. A diamond level player that decays down to silver for not playing for 3+ months is still going to play diamond players when they get back.
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But that was my default league after they came up with the idea. I was gold tier season 2 but after they introduced the league system i was put in the silver IV. I lost a few games from the get go which pissed me off and i thats when i stopped playing ranked for a while. Picked it up again but was having problems getting anywhere so stopped again and thats when my points started dropping.
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Fnatic vs EG - sOAZ 7/0/12 on top Nunu. GG.
Edited by Chunin - 4/19/13 at 11:55am
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Fnatic vs EG - sOAZ 7/0/12 on top Nunu. GG.

I keep going to the European LCS site and I'm not seeing the current stream... mad.gif

I'm sure it's the correct time.
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But that was my default league after they came up with the idea. I was gold tier season 2 but after they introduced the league system i was put in the silver IV. I lost a few games from the get go which pissed me off and i thats when i stopped playing ranked for a while. Picked it up again but was having problems getting anywhere so stopped again and thats when my points started dropping.
Gold Season 2 != Gold Season 1 != Gold Season 3. Different metas, different skillsets rewarded, different percentages at each tier.

Your points may drop and you can drop divisions and even tiers. However, if your MMR(Elo's new name) matched where you were, when you start playing again you can quickly get back up because your MMR vs your league positioning decides on your reward/penalties for wins and losses. The system will match you against similar MMRs, so if your MMR is equal to that of a gold player but your actual league position has you in Silver 4, you will get larger LP rewards for victories and smaller LP penalties for defeats (the background MMR/ELO functions independent of everything else).

However, being placed in Silver 4 was a result of your placement MMR being that of Silver 4. Season 3 placement matches were weighted heavier than previous season ranks. Since MMR functions independent of the league system, it can still benefit greatly from win streaks and MMR can advance far faster than your league position can (especially because of promotion series), with low games played MMR is especially volatile, so while a win streak can get your LP gains very high, a few losses can negate a large portion of your win streak, bringing your MMR close to your league position.

When your MMR is higher than your position, LP gains are larger and LP losses are smaller. When your MMR is lower, the reverse is true. How much larger/smaller is dependent on how much higher/lower your MMR is. Your MMR is adjusted for a win/loss before your LP is granted, so if going into the match your MMR perfectly reflects your position, after the match your MMR will have changed before your LP moves your towards where the system thinks you should be. Once you get into the 75-100 games played range unless your W/L is higher than ~65%, your MMR gets pretty stable and there's a lot of inertia before it'll start moving either direction quickly. If you win all of your first 75 games, your ELO will have gotten into the challenger range and you'll probably be in diamond 1-2. However, a single loss could normalize your MMR and a 5-7 loss streak could drop you down to the bottom of Diamond 5 (with the league system stopping you there) and a 10-win streak might have your MMR drop into the gold ~3 range and you'd have to work very hard (2-5LP per win, -30 per loss) to try to advance back up until (if) your MMR recovers back into the diamond range. If it doesn't, you'd have to wait it out and let it drop you into the platinum range to be able to actually have league movement again, but you'd still drop extremely fast and a 50% win rate after those first 85 games (and letting yourself drop to platinum after bottoming out in diamond) might normalize your LP and MMR around platinum 2. In contrast, a 50% win rate for your first 85 games might get you to Silver 3, but a 75 game win streak might only get you to platinum 2-3 and a 10 game losing streak might only drop you to platinum 4-5 in both MMR and LP. An unlimited player count with everyone playing 100+ games would see all but the top and bottom ~1% move towards 50% win rate if matchmaking was able to function in an ideal world. Since it can't function in an ideal world, you end up with games you're expected to win or expected to lose and your rewards/penalties for your ELO are reflected by whether or not you did what the system expected.

TL;DR Elo still drives ranked games, the league system was put in place so that people aren't so upset being stuck in the bronze/silver range and the league system is just a delayed reflection of the volatility of low games played Elo.
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I keep going to the European LCS site and I'm not seeing the current stream... mad.gif

I'm sure it's the correct time.

Todays last game finished like an hour ago so you are not really accurate with your info on the time... Like 7 hours off tongue.gif
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So far ive played 125 ranked games and my win ratio now is at 61.6%. As youve mentioned the placent matches played a great deal this season and since my early games went so badly i was placed much lower than expected which is probably why when i finally got around to playing for real i climbed up so quickly. Ive jumped from Gold IV straight to Gold II after playing 4 games there and then the 2 that you have to win to advance.

Thanks for an elaborated response.
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Hey guys, Nightopian here. Hoping to meet up with some chill League players. I just started ranked and am currently Bronze lvl 3, but am headed up the ranks.

I main jungle. I love to play Udyr, Naut, Fiddle, and Mundo.

Gonna head into the League chat and hope to start up a game, catcha there!
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Nunu top incoming

Prepare your anus ranked!
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Nunu top incoming

Prepare your anus ranked!

I still don't uinderstand if this is a skin for nunu or new splash art, too hard to tell.

http://leaguecraft.com/discussions/1653-new-skins-for-volibear-anivia-shyvana-nunu-sejuani-lissandra.xhtml
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