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I don't have a problem with your suggestions and advice, they're all sound. But I'm speaking from experience here, a High silver will not easily carry out of Bronze, nor will a mid gold. It's not 'easy' - Can you and will you? Yes, but not easy
hahahahaha.....

I was low silver and stomped out of bronze.

Dude, you're so wrong...
MAN I even trolled a couple games and first picked jinx nasus and vi having NEVER played those champions before AND STILL won those games.
I had never once played Vi before. not a single bot game not a single normals.
nah shyvana banned for the 14th god damned time in a row im like "screw it im gonna troll" pick's Vi, carries the game. first match ever played as Vi.

And yeah you can go pick out my past posts where I'm duoing with a diamond player and beating plat/diamond junglers, but that doesn't change the fact that the highest rank I ever achieved was Silver II, and I'm no better a player than any other silver.

And yet? 3 seasons I carry out of bronze, the last season without much of a struggle either.

And dude, when i was playing out of the 120 something matches i played, i had to deal with 15 autoloss matches on my side of the field 11% of my total games were lost because of things out of my control, and yet

Took me only 7 days to climb from bronze 4 to Silver 4
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No, I completely disagree about the whole "If you're a mid silver player, you'll easily carry out of bronze" rolleyes.gif hell, I have to even try to carry out of Bronze. And you still miss the argument everyone is talking about. Face the simple facts of these - Newer players who are your typical average joe, end up in Bronze once they hit 30, or maybe MAYBE get into Silver. They have low team presence, low champion pools and few lanes they can play "well"

This scenario carries all the way up to basically mid and upper Gold. Some good "Gold" players still are stuck in just more roles with a little bit bigger of a champion pool. They could hold their own with their main role such as say, a top lane vs's a mid level Platinum player as their main champ/role when that Plat isn't much of a top laner, this is said for EVERY SINGLE lane around the lower tiers of League.

If you're a Silver player or even Gold and you main a support, you will NOT carry out of Bronze 'easily'. and you will NOT carry out of Bronze easily as an ADC or even a Mid. And as I've stated numerous times before, the EASIEST way to win those lower tier games in bronze is by playing a Jungle since most players around that actual 'skill level' do not have map awareness nor do they know how to handle it. Does this make it 'easy to carry out of'' no it does not. It makes it 'easier'.

Also, the last 2 seasons, you have to take into account the amount of "I'm a higher pick then you" thus you might not even get the carry roles. "OH, I'm first pick, I'll mid!" and you're forced to play a role you're not even that good at. And just as I already mentioned, what are you going to do if you're a normal Silver or lower Gold player forced to play a role you're not good at with a low champion pool that you don't have? Are you going to easily carry the brain dead with your first time Irelia top? I do not think so.

Enjoy being out of the hell whole these players have to be in and where many of us have suffered before. But don't go tell them it's "easy to carry out of Bronze if you're a Silver player". For fakers sake, I know a lot more Bronzes that are better than Silvers. I sometimes want to know how these players got into Bronze or how they are even good enough to get into Silver.

One of my good buddies I game with was stuck in Bronze and wanted to Solo Q out of it, he coudln't. He had to duo with another friend where they carried to Gold by the time S3 was up. But the fact remains, his skill level and his champion/roles were not enough to carry SOLO Q with dead end gamers.


EDIT: I'm willing to play with some of you guys and hopefully help coach you. Can see where you're week and what needs work, I'll play any of the roles.

I didn't say a mid-silver player could carry easily.
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I'm about to hit 30 here soon and start ranked. I'd like to think my best position is mid, but if I don't get I try to diversify each game and get good with a few other champs in the other positions. Any advice before I start ranked? Hope I don't get stuck in bronze!! Cheers! smile.gif
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hahahahaha.....

I was low silver and stomped out of bronze.

Dude, you're so wrong...
MAN I even trolled a couple games and first picked jinx nasus and vi having NEVER played those champions before AND STILL won those games.
I had never once played Vi before. not a single bot game not a single normals.
nah shyvana banned for the 14th god damned time in a row im like "screw it im gonna troll" pick's Vi, carries the game. first match ever played as Vi.

And yeah you can go pick out my past posts where I'm duoing with a diamond player and beating plat/diamond junglers, but that doesn't change the fact that the highest rank I ever achieved was Silver II, and I'm no better a player than any other silver.

And yet? 3 seasons I carry out of bronze, the last season without much of a struggle either.

And dude, when i was playing out of the 120 something matches i played, i had to deal with 15 autoloss matches on my side of the field 11% of my total games were lost because of things out of my control, and yet

Took me only 7 days to climb from bronze 4 to Silver 4


Maybe instead of quoting that part, quote the rest of it -
Psst - Out of all your champs, you jungled in 80 % of them, that right there would make it much better to do then someone who is a support main or your typical low gold/ high silver ADC

7 days to go from Bronze 4 to Silver 4 and how ever many games you played in those 7 days is not "easily stomping" you played your best champ that you could always get, you have a low champion pool for ranked based upon that jungle role. That seems to be what you're best at. You're probably bronze in everything but Jungle and probably a much better Jungle then a Silver and maybe into the upper gold lower plat level for Jungles from the sounds of it... that could make getting out of Bronze pretty easy, when that's where Bronze suffers the most. You take (like I've been saying) Lower gold, higher Silvers, or any Silver in general and throw them into a role they don't get often, or into a role that doesn't carry games hard like a jungle. It just makes it even harder.

Thanks for totally reinforcing everything I've been spitting at the couple of you. thumb.gif
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7 Days from Bronze 4 to Silver 4? Wow. It took me a whole month of carrying 4 deadweights on my shoulders before I could get from Silver 3 to Silver 5, and then back to Silver 3.
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I didn't say a mid-silver player could carry easily.

I didnt' say that either... Re-read and understand what my post says. thumb.gif -
     
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7 Days from Bronze 4 to Silver 4? Wow. It took me a whole month of carrying 4 deadweights on my shoulders before I could get from Silver 3 to Silver 5, and then back to Silver 3.

Don't feel bad, she played more games in those 7 days than you did the entire month.
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I didnt' say that either... Re-read and understand what my post says. thumb.gif -

The first sentence, you're disagreeing with something I never said.
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Don't feel bad, she played more games in those 7 days than you did the entire month.

i'm a hard core level player thumb.gif

also those are the final games of my career. the final totals.
I'm going to be starting training to play hard core in WildStar here in a few days.
I will take what I learned from competative play in LoL to WildStar, im so exicted. I'll never forget shyvana elise and ahri. But i was happy to play at a hard core level once again.
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id imagine that bronze or the equivalent elo in season 1 was no where near the cesspool of retardation that bronze and silver is today. so being in bronze in season one is in no way shape or form the same as being in bronze in season 4. i started playing at the end of season 2, and the amount of trolls and flat out jerks has grown by an astronomical amount. im sure you will discredit this as well, but its nothing i havent encountered before when talking about league of legends
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