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Three solo queue wins in a row. I'm either pro with jungle GP, or insanely lucky.



Probably just lucky.
My vote is for lucky

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Anybody wanna give me some tips on Ash? I'm actually a competitive HoN/Dota player on garena, and just recently started playing LoL with my brother and his friends. I find ash like valkryie(potm)/Viper(drow ranger) so last hitting, harassing, and landing those pro arrows aren't much of a problem. But I'm mostly wondering what items do I start off with her if I go mid? or lane? and what big item to get first? I usually go phantom but notice I wasn't doing much damage, should I go infinity edge first?
Ashe belongs in the bottom lane with a support. You should always start with boots + 3 health potions to help you sustain a lot longer in lane. On your first recall, you should buy a doran blade. Then work on getting berserker greaves. If you're being harassed a lot in lane while farming, you can always stack 2-3 doran blades before starting your infinity edge. After you've got infinity edge you should go for a zeal to phantom dancer. After phantom dancer, you can always get a bloodthirster for TONS OF DAMAGE. After i've got enough damage, I normally go for a banshees veil then frozen mallet.

This build works on almost every ad carry. Also no offence to the guy before but you shouldn't ever get boots of swiftness.
Edited by consume - 11/8/11 at 10:09am
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This build works on almost every ad carry. Also no offence to the guy before but you shouldn't ever get boots of swiftness.
It's all up to personnel preference. I find I do more damage to a person running away when I have boots of swiftness (after you shoot, you have to move back into range for the next shot and that kills your atk speed). Also, it gives me the chance to chase a runner down and get a snare on him (your R may be on cool down) or kite people focusing you. Berserker boots are only good if you are able to stay still and fire without having to move.

I think your frozen mallet is an interesting last item idea for a survival item on ashe.

I almost forgot, I agree Ashe shouldn't be mid. There are a lot better characters that can go mid. With that said, sometimes you have no choice when you’re not on a premade team.
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How long do you guys think it'll take to get from lvl 26-30, if i play 1 game a day and win most of them?
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It's all up to personnel preference. I find I do more damage to a person running away when I have boots of swiftness (after you shoot, you have to move back into range for the next shot and that kills your atk speed). Also, it gives me the chance to chase a runner down and get a snare on him (your R may be on cool down) or kite people focusing you. Berserker boots are only good if you are able to stay still and fire without having to move.

I think your frozen mallet is an interesting last item idea for a survival item on ashe.

I almost forgot, I agree Ashe shouldn't be mid. There are a lot better characters that can go mid. With that said, sometimes you have no choice when you’re not on a premade team.
Exactly. Ashe is super slow and her slow from Q is only amazing if you have boots of swiftness and phantom dancer passive. Also, if you are having trouble sustaining early you can build lifesteal after the IE. frozen mallet on ashe is useless cause of her Q. you can put your money towards something like black cleaver (if they are stacking armour) or the last whisper (great to get the closest amount to TRUE damage)

But seriously the last whisper is what i get on her after the IE and PD. just makes you hit that much harder
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How long do you guys think it'll take to get from lvl 26-30, if i play 1 game a day and win most of them?
only one game a day? well that will take some time. winning or not.
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Exactly. Ashe is super slow and her slow from Q is only amazing if you have boots of swiftness and phantom dancer passive. Also, if you are having trouble sustaining early you can build lifesteal after the IE. frozen mallet on ashe is useless cause of her Q. you can put your money towards something like black cleaver (if they are stacking armour) or the last whisper (great to get the closest amount to TRUE damage)

But seriously the last whisper is what i get on her after the IE and PD. just makes you hit that much harder
Frozen mallet is definitely not useless on ashe. The slow is an added bonus, and it stacks with her Q. The main reasoning behind getting it is for more health and becoming less squishy. In team fights, as ashe you are the priority target and they will burst you down EASILY if you don't have some form of defense. Also, you don't need level 3 boots on ashe. If you can't chase someone down with Q i'm not sure what you think that +25 movespeed is going to do for you. If you can micro you won't need that extra move speed. On an ad carry attack speed + damage > movespeed. And I do agree with getting a last whisper, but that's only if the enemy team is smart enough to stack armor.

And why would you build sustain after infinity edge? Rushing straight to damage is risky and won't always work, especially when you can easily stack doran blades until youve farmed enough for an infinity edge.
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Because rushing Infinity Edge gives you a HUGE boost to damage early on, which you need as a carry.
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only one game a day? well that will take some time. winning or not.
Sorry i ment to say at least one game a day. average of about 3-4
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Because rushing Infinity Edge gives you a HUGE boost to damage early on, which you need as a carry.
It's common to get 2-3 doran blades because it gives you health and lifesteal, helping you sustain while you get a bfsword. Really in higher levels of play unless you're insanely fed early game you won't see someone rushing that bfsword right after boots.
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