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As the game is loading
Me: Oh look a MF skin. (Cowgirl MF)
Andy: *lustful moaning*
Me: I'd crit that.

lol lachen.gif

ya, after that game (which I am surprised we won) we were thinking so hard (I started to smell bacon) trying to figure it out, Luckily groundzero remembered it.
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By the way groundzero, just out of curiosity, did you make your avatar?
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By the way groundzero, just out of curiosity, did you make your avatar?

I want it!!!
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By the way groundzero, just out of curiosity, did you make your avatar?

I cropped it out of another picture yes, but I wasn't the one who drew it.
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Actually , he got shafted pretty hard due to the safeguard/flash nerfs.
The only thing remotely broken in this game is true damage and crits.The only reason the tanky dps meta is persistent is because of how scaling works , armor and MR is on a bell curve while HP scaling is infinite(note: not effective HP) , this is why champions with high health values such as cho gath(when stacked) do not get scaling on MR/poor armor scaling to compensate for the high health values.This effectively means that the one-item counter to tanky dps is actually black cleaver/madreds(for targets with lower or equal to 100MR)/LW(carries with built in steriod) for AD carries and void staff/DFG for mages because so long as you have enough armor/MR reduction , their gold/stat effectiveness would decrease dramatically ; this is why you do not wait for armor/MR pen to be your last item unless you are really sure you can fight the uphill battle of farming for the damage needed.
Oh btw , your only true defense as a carry would only be lifesteal , you're doing it wrong if you need anything more than 2 defensive items per game.
True damage is self explanatory , especially when they have extremely good scaling based on other stats.This is why olaf , vayne and irelia(cho excluded) really only needs to build a few core items to deal damage to anyone in the enemy team as they please.
Crits on the other hand , is only due to the fact that riot changed it to a certain period of time whereby your attacks can crit and is not purely based on a random roll anymore.This means that a cait with IE could deal 4 hits in a row which can very well be the total damage output she did in a teamfight done in less than half the time as compared to another cait with the same AD/AS but no crit.

The reason the tanky DPS meta is so persistent is because the only reliable counter to tanky DPS is... more tanky DPS.

True damage isn't that big of an issue when most tanky champs have crazy base damage as it is.

Riot needs to make tanky items cost more in-line with that of damage items. A Chain Vest costs 700g and gives you 45% more effective HP vs physical. To get 45% more AD, it costs 1650 for most champs (buying as a first item).

Considering that tanks or "tanky dps" needs to deal with BOTH forms of damage in addition to outfarming a carry with LESS damage i think its a fair trade.
    
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Considering that tanks or "tanky dps" needs to deal with BOTH forms of damage in addition to outfarming a carry with LESS damage i think its a fair trade.

Considering that it costs less for a tanky DPS to get +45% more effective HP versus both types of damage than it does for 1 carry to get +45% effective damage for one type, and that most tanks have better farming abilities than most carries due to their very "unmovable" presence in lane, their high base damage and they all have some form of AoE damage, I'd say it's completely game breaking and needs to be fixed ASAP.
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Akali is quite useless now. The Hextech Gunblade nerf hurt her survivability a lot, and now the nerf on top of that ruins her.

How is she useless?
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Considering that it costs less for a tanky DPS to get +45% more effective HP versus both types of damage than it does for 1 carry to get +45% effective damage for one type, and that most tanks have better farming abilities than most carries due to their very "unmovable" presence in lane, their high base damage and they all have some form of AoE damage, I'd say it's completely game breaking and needs to be fixed ASAP.

Exactly.

A tanky DPS can farm with ease, almost all of them have built in sustain, and they are highly effective early, mid and late game, where carriers only really shine late-mid to late game.

So, to the people who don't like the tanky DPS meta, how would you go about changing that? I mean it would take some pretty dramatic changes. REALLY dramatic changes.
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Make tanky items less cost efficient and/or nerf every tanky DPS' base damage so that they actually need damage items to do damage and can't go almost pure tank.
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Happy thanksgiving for those whole live in America.
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