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So Brand I took bottom, and were up against Master Yi and Tryndamere. At first I was worried... and then the miracle happened... Brand could land skillshots! I think by about the 10-12 minute mark, Tryndamere only had 5 minion kills and was forced into jungling, and was apparently terrible at it. Yi was able to get a couple of minion kills, but for the most part was under-farmed. Every team fight, Trynd and Yi tried to take me out, but I stacked armor early game, and because they were under-farmed, they couldn't even take me out 1v1.

It was a glorious moment in LoL.

Very ironic considering you are meeting better players at level 17 than in elo hell.redface.gif
    
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From experience, I have to disagree. Sure, smart teams will WANT to ignore the tank (rammus), but as soon as Ramm rolls in, taunts the AD carry or AP Nuker everyone will rush to kill that person. A lot of teams will not ignore someone that does that. I always initiate for my team and take a lot of focus as rammus. I don't think that helping my team with 12 armor 15 MR and 8 damage is going to do ANYTHING late game. Early game I won't need it as Rammus since I'll be jungling and everytime I gank the enemy will run rather than fight it out 3v2.
I'll buy Randuins instead of thornmail. We'll see how it goes. Going to have to ignore the advice on Aegis.
I also don't think Last Whisper is a smart "counter" towards Thornmail. Even if you did make them buy Last Whisper because YOU have a Thornmail, that will have helped your team because now their damage output is lower when they could have built a BT instead.
Anyway, tried playing with Randuins first.
2 Terrible games. 1 was with a retarded team. The other was with an ahry that disconnected the entire game after getting 6 minion kills.
That said, even though the teams were derp as hell. I felt randuins was a considerably weaker item than thornmail. Wasn't a effecient for jungling, I saw myself dying a lot more than I should have been. Was dealing nowhere near the same amount of damage..
Maybe Randuins is a good item as a 3rd or 4th item, but noway should it be first.

Most carriers buy a LW. Most smart teams will CC you before you can get to there carry and body block your powerball. Aegis is a 2kgold item that gives you and everyone on your team great stats. It's REALLY cheap for the stats it gives without the aura, and with the aura it's even better. With the current bruisher/atmogs meta, Last Whisper is a very common endgame item for AD carriers.

Randuins gives health and armour, and only 25 less armour than a Thornmail.

You should build a Phiolo stone and heart of gold early to get that passive GP5 thumb.gif
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From experience, I have to disagree. Sure, smart teams will WANT to ignore the tank (rammus), but as soon as Ramm rolls in, taunts the AD carry or AP Nuker everyone will rush to kill that person. A lot of teams will not ignore someone that does that. I always initiate for my team and take a lot of focus as rammus. I don't think that helping my team with 12 armor 15 MR and 8 damage is going to do ANYTHING late game. Early game I won't need it as Rammus since I'll be jungling and everytime I gank the enemy will run rather than fight it out 3v2.
I'll buy Randuins instead of thornmail. We'll see how it goes. Going to have to ignore the advice on Aegis.
I also don't think Last Whisper is a smart "counter" towards Thornmail. Even if you did make them buy Last Whisper because YOU have a Thornmail, that will have helped your team because now their damage output is lower when they could have built a BT instead.
Anyway, tried playing with Randuins first.
2 Terrible games. 1 was with a retarded team. The other was with an ahry that disconnected the entire game after getting 6 minion kills.
That said, even though the teams were derp as hell. I felt randuins was a considerably weaker item than thornmail. Wasn't a effecient for jungling, I saw myself dying a lot more than I should have been. Was dealing nowhere near the same amount of damage..
Maybe Randuins is a good item as a 3rd or 4th item, but noway should it be first.

From experience, I never seen a smart AD carry would be in the front line to get taunt by the Rammus, just saying biggrin.gif
Thornmail has way too many counters: Madreds Bloodrazor, Sword of the divine, Banshee's Veil, Mercury Boots, A LOT of Lifesteal, Last Whisper, Quicksilver Sash. How is LW not a smart counter ? sure BT gives you more damage, but comparing 3k item to 2k item isn't really fair imo.
Let's say you're against a Vayne, would you get Thornmail or Randuin's ?
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From experience, I never seen a smart AD carry would be in the front line to get taunt by the Rammus, just saying biggrin.gif
Thornmail has way too many counters: Madreds Bloodrazor, Sword of the divine, Banshee's Veil, Mercury Boots, A LOT of Lifesteal, Last Whisper, Quicksilver Sash. How is LW not a smart counter ? sure BT gives you more damage, but comparing 3k item to 2k item isn't really fair imo.
Let's say you're against a Vayne, would you get Thornmail or Randuin's ?

Well when I play vayne I build her High attack speed with major life steal and tanks hate me O.o
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From experience, I have to disagree. Sure, smart teams will WANT to ignore the tank (rammus), but as soon as Ramm rolls in, taunts the AD carry or AP Nuker everyone will rush to kill that person. A lot of teams will not ignore someone that does that. I always initiate for my team and take a lot of focus as rammus. I don't think that helping my team with 12 armor 15 MR and 8 damage is going to do ANYTHING late game. Early game I won't need it as Rammus since I'll be jungling and everytime I gank the enemy will run rather than fight it out 3v2.
I'll buy Randuins instead of thornmail. We'll see how it goes. Going to have to ignore the advice on Aegis.
I also don't think Last Whisper is a smart "counter" towards Thornmail. Even if you did make them buy Last Whisper because YOU have a Thornmail, that will have helped your team because now their damage output is lower when they could have built a BT instead.
Anyway, tried playing with Randuins first.
2 Terrible games. 1 was with a retarded team. The other was with an ahry that disconnected the entire game after getting 6 minion kills.
That said, even though the teams were derp as hell. I felt randuins was a considerably weaker item than thornmail. Wasn't a effecient for jungling, I saw myself dying a lot more than I should have been. Was dealing nowhere near the same amount of damage..
Maybe Randuins is a good item as a 3rd or 4th item, but noway should it be first.

From experience, I never seen a smart AD carry would be in the front line to get taunt by the Rammus, just saying biggrin.gif
Thornmail has way too many counters: Madreds Bloodrazor, Sword of the divine, Banshee's Veil, Mercury Boots, A LOT of Lifesteal, Last Whisper, Quicksilver Sash. How is LW not a smart counter ? sure BT gives you more damage, but comparing 3k item to 2k item isn't really fair imo.
Let's say you're against a Vayne, would you get Thornmail or Randuin's ?

With my build I destroy vaynes. Have never had a problem with one. Also, I don't stand in front of my team as Rammus like many tanks do. I go around the side and whenever someone makes a mistake or initiates, I come in through the side and taunt the AD carry or AP nuker. If they wanna blow CC on me, that's a win win. The only time I lead head on is when the game is already won and I'm super fed or my team is.
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Hey guise am I doing it right?
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You lost a game, so I think not.
 
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Hey guise am I doing it right?
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seems you do... tongue.gif gratz!
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Don't let him fool ya, I was there for 90% of those games (except the leblanc one) to protect him. ;P


Now, for a ginger girl time!

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Lies. Andy is just jealous that I'm super pro.
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