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LOL, WHY YOU WOULD TEAM FIGHT 4V5 KNOWING I WASN'T THERE!
pfft..

But they are all saying, "WHY WOULD YOU PUSH TOP WHEN YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TEAM FIGHT!?"
 
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Absolutely false. You can't CHOOSE the teammates you're playing with if you solo/duo queue.
3 people can destroy you.
1 person can destroy you.
You could kill 4/5 people, but if that last person kills you, you lose.
Against an average to decent team. 1 person CAN NOT carry an entire team to victory if their team is full of dee dee dee's.
Now, back to what I was saying..It's not perfect, but it give you a sense of how well the player is doing. Take a look at my previous 9 games.
683
Tossing Co-op/AI games out (hence the dash), you total the kills with a score of +5, take off 5 for everyone death and add 2.5 for every assist. You get the above posted scores (to the right, +xx number).
Now, it's not great if you play a short game or your score doesn't change that much; however, let's consider this..why would someone have a low score? They played too defensively perhaps? Weren't in team fights? Got rocked and were forced to leave a team fight early?
All of these do say something about the player as well, even if the number isn't completely true to their talent.
If they were constantly getting forced back and out of team fights early, their positioning was probably weak. If they were too defensive, that also hurt the team. If they weren't helping in team fights, that typically hurts the team. Ofc, taking into account tower destruction with a +5(or 2.5) score also helps.
And don't just toss away wins and losses. Perhaps that should have a number total as well. +10 for a win. +0 for a loss.
Either way, you're going to see if the person is positive or negative in score and that is more important than a win/loss.
If the person is positive with a ton of losses, that's telling you more likely than not that the player is getting [censored] by Riot matchmaking and it's not their fault for the loss.
If they're getting a loss and their previous 10 scores are all negatives, it's telling you they're pretty [censored] bad.

Why should you gain ELO for losing a match in a TEAM GAME?

Tom Brady did well in the superbowl but he didn't get part of a ring just because of that. Some of his team mates dropped easy passes and they LOST the game. Which means that he doesn't get what he wanted.

Same goes for LoL. You lose game, you lose ELO. You win game, you gain ELO. This game is all about team mechanics. you should be supporting your team if you are doing that well
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if you don't like this then go nerf Irelia or something

^ This.

This argument is dumb, let's nerf Irelia!
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^ This.

I knew someone would get that eventually hahahaha
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Ah, I remember a 40 minute ranked game I played last week. We were coming back. Wukong back to back initiates 1v5, with 2 teammates moderately close.
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Because you can completely suck and get carried by other teammates and because you have all wins your elo is enormous, make sense?
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Because you can completely suck and get carried by other teammates and because you have all wins your elo is enormous, make sense?

Getting carried is not consistent enough for them to make changes. That's why the top players are at the top. They don't need to get carried 90% of the time.

Believe me, I know exactly what you are saying. It's not exactly "fair" for some players to get free ELO. The pattern of people getting carried evens itself out though and those who have to constantly get carried stay at lower ELO's
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According to Simca, would I be a good player?
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According to Simca, would I be a good player?

well that is 7/10 games won. not too shabby. a win is a win
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I think that the ELO system could use a revision.

Dominion is able to track multiple statistics, and awards you based on certain behaviors. I think that adding a similar system to ELO would help to determine the good from the bad.

While I do agree with the superbowl analogy, we are talking about a PERSONAL ranking here, not a TEAM ranking. This is how you are matched with TEAMMAETS, and thus, matching INDIVIDUALS of similar skill to create a TEAM would make sense.

The way ELO is currently done seems a bit primitive.

To further prove my point, now that the football season is over, look what happens during drafting. Do you see people ONLY seeking the people on the Giants because they won the superbowl? Or do they search for players with the stats that they are interested in, across all teams?
 
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