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And also, Karma ? Anyone have any thoughts on her ?

Karma is hard to have thoughts on because so many people play her poorly. I have no idea how to play her, but I have seen a few people that knew what they were doing carry a team with Karma (very rare). On the other hand, it could be because Karma is so rarely played that the other team didn't know how to react! I always thought she looked fun, but never bothered buying her.
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Crunkles plays junglers ? lolwut ?

That was actually the first role I played and enjoyed, and still do I'm just quite rusty.
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Your Canadian.
Nuff said.

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Riven and Karma on sale next week, aaw yeah ! Two champs ive been wanting. Have tried Riven and love her, and Karma seems interesting. Anyone who plays Karma ? How do you feel about her ?

Karma is awesome fun, and can be strong if you know what you're doing but she needs farm and lots of it. She really only works in a solo lane or a bot lane with an AD that can roam like Twitch, at least imho. Used to play her a lot but people don't know how to play around her so she goes unnoticed at being quite powerful.
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So, as I said earlier, I came back from a 1 and a half month break, didn't do so well... and got reported by the entire team for "intentionally feeding". Now I remember why I quit the game in the first place, garbage community.

The community isn't as bad as people make it out to be, and how I used to think it was. Especially once you use the ignore button when you find those who are in the minority of terrible people as a whole tongue.gif
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people interested in playing you are welcome to add me, name is Naroku, i have a 5 man ranked team that needs some serious players, wife and i love to play, i own every champ, and spend too much money on skins xD, SnK gaming is out team =)

Hit me up, my IGN is Cynez. I play a lot, not as much recently since I was home for a visit and just started datin' a hottie wink.gif (not a red head, sorry Andy and Odd)
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Who should I buy with 6300 IP? I like casters and ad range
I was thinking about buying Graves or Vlad or Swain. Suggestion?

Vlad is strong top and mid with a strong team fight presence. Graves is OP, enough said. Swain is ok, kind of a tricky champ to learn at first but can be useful with his snares.
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How does one build Jungle Riven ? I just bought her on sale and know she can jungle, but what items do you get for her ? Same as when she is top ?
And also, Karma ? Anyone have any thoughts on her ?

I mentioned about Karma a few quotes above. Riven jungle isn't as strong as Riven top, but is still fun. She doesn't clear the jungle as fast as her counterparts but has the dash and stun for ganks. I normally do something along the lines of cloth+5 pots or boots+3 pots-> 2 doran blades -> merc treads or ninja tabi or CDR boots -> then the usual BT, GA, and situational items (another BT, Maw, QSS, etc)
    
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@ Crunkles: Yeah that Riven build looks like what most people are doing for, well, pretty much everything. So you dont think Karma is viable as a normal support with GP10 items ?
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Who should I buy with 6300 IP? I like casters and ad range

I was thinking about buying Graves or Vlad or Swain. Suggestion?

Doesn't matter. Who ever you buy, you won't get to use. That role will be called "first" and if you try and dispute then commence the trolling and reporting.

If I were you I would pick a Support though, since it is the only role no one ever calls.
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@ Crunkles: Yeah that Riven build looks like what most people are doing for, well, pretty much everything. So you dont think Karma is viable as a normal support with GP10 items ?

I would only caution you about going as a normal support on Karma because of the following:
  1. Her shield does not provide the bonus AD Janna's does
  2. Her only CC is a slow that requires you to stay close
  3. Her heal requires you to use your ulti stacks
  4. She only has 3 abilities

Karma is a support that is meant to assist the team with substantial damage as well as support. Her ulti stacks have to be utilized perfectly on the right abilities and at the right times otherwise you've wasted potential team fight utility. I think her ulti needs a buff to allow more stacks so she is more useful in 5v5 fights, but her utility is quite strong in lane. This is why she isn't used often, because she falls off later in team fights. But if she can get the farm to get damage item she is a huge threat. Get gp10 slows her build too much and doesn't give the normal gold from farming as most supports will tell you. She is a very particular champ, and can be viable if you've mastered her unique set of skills. This is the biggest hinderance to her being played often: she takes a long time to master and is not easily transitioned to from other supports so most high elo support players won't take the time needed to play her because she is so different from the others and doesn't provide the large CC that others have (ex. Lulu, Leona, Alistar, Janna, Taric).
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Doesn't matter. Who ever you buy, you won't get to use. That role will be called "first" and if you try and dispute then commence the trolling and reporting.
If I were you I would pick a Support though, since it is the only role no one ever calls.

I call support all the time when playing with a competent AD carry (ex. rctrucker & theoddone). You're statement is relevant in normal queue when you're solo, but who cares in normals? Just play them anyways, or play a custom game where it matters even less.
    
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Vlad isn't strong, I just played him well rolleyes.gif
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I would only caution you about going as a normal support on Karma because of the following:
  1. Her shield does not provide the bonus AD Janna's does
  2. Her only CC is a slow that requires you to stay close
  3. Her heal requires you to use your ulti stacks
  4. She only has 3 abilities
Karma is a support that is meant to assist the team with substantial damage as well as support. Her ulti stacks have to be utilized perfectly on the right abilities and at the right times otherwise you've wasted potential team fight utility. I think her ulti needs a buff to allow more stacks so she is more useful in 5v5 fights, but her utility is quite strong in lane. This is why she isn't used often, because she falls off later in team fights. But if she can get the farm to get damage item she is a huge threat. Get gp10 slows her build too much and doesn't give the normal gold from farming as most supports will tell you. She is a very particular champ, and can be viable if you've mastered her unique set of skills. This is the biggest hinderance to her being played often: she takes a long time to master and is not easily transitioned to from other supports so most high elo support players won't take the time needed to play her because she is so different from the others and doesn't provide the large CC that others have (ex. Lulu, Leona, Alistar, Janna, Taric).
I call support all the time when playing with a competent AD carry (ex. rctrucker & theoddone). You're statement is relevant in normal queue when you're solo, but who cares in normals? Just play them anyways, or play a custom game where it matters even less.

Karma's issue is that she needs to get AP to become effective. All other supports in the game provide base abilities that allow them to forgo building AP/AD to be viable. Karma is a great support with AP and late game can dish out damage and CC like ziliean, shields like janna and heals better than sona. The problem is getting to that point while building AP, you just don't have the money for wards/oricle to support your team.
 
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Just had a game with Karma. I can definitely see what you mean about her needing some damage items to be really powerful, but I also really do like her skill set. I can see myself playing her often.

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Doesn't matter. Who ever you buy, you won't get to use. That role will be called "first" and if you try and dispute then commence the trolling and reporting.
If I were you I would pick a Support though, since it is the only role no one ever calls.

lol

Lucky you, I always get to call biggrin.gif
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Karma is a much better solo top than a support.

Sigh, why do people hate finishing games? One ranked game I played last week, we got a ace, and we had mid pushing and the inhibitor was down. Ashe goes top. We take both nexus turrets, and bring the nexus down to like 1/3 health, they respawn and kill 3 of us. WHY;AJFLKD;AJF;LAJFIAJCOIAJFIOILFJHOILFHJOIFHDOIAS;J


People just hate finishing games. We can push mid and win. NOPE GOTTA FARM MORE, GOTTA THROW OUR ADVANTAGE.
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