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I am 30.
So should i rune only in Mana / Mp5? Magic Resist & Movement speed?

I believe I run the following:

Marks- Mag Pen
Seals- Flat mana
Glyphs- Flat mana
Quints- Movement speed

Masteries: 9/21/0

All the extra dmg in the offensive tree doesn't give a significant boost in Ryze's dmg so making him tanky is far more desireable.

He is a unique AP carry, who builds tanky and can carry hard late. Using items like Boots (MR or Mag pen), Frozen heart, banshee's veil, archangel's staff, WotA, situational item. At least this is my build in most cases. Order of purchase is definitely situational, but I'll normally go boots + pots -> tear or catalyst and go from there.
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post #7892 of 17789
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I am 30.
So should i rune only in Mana / Mp5? Magic Resist & Movement speed?

use quints movement speed red magic pene yellow mana per level and blue magic res
use any 0-21-9 or 9-21-0 or 9-21-0.if you choose to put your points in offense take the extra ad because you want to last hit without spells in early game.after you get tear spam only your q for harass,last hit with AA
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I believe I run the following:
Marks- Mag Pen
Seals- Flat mana
Glyphs- Flat mana
Quints- Movement speed
Masteries: 9/21/0
All the extra dmg in the offensive tree doesn't give a significant boost in Ryze's dmg so making him tanky is far more desireable.
He is a unique AP carry, who builds tanky and can carry hard late. Using items like Boots (MR or Mag pen), Frozen heart, banshee's veil, archangel's staff, WotA, situational item. At least this is my build in most cases. Order of purchase is definitely situational, but I'll normally go boots + pots -> tear or catalyst and go from there.

Do you mean 9/0/21 for mastery?

And for Runes I use pretty much the same as Crunkles, expect for Seals I go Mana per level, and split the glyphs with flat mana and Ability cooldown.
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Do you mean 9/0/21 for mastery?
And for Runes I use pretty much the same as Crunkles, expect for Seals I go Mana per level, and split the glyphs with flat mana and Ability cooldown.

you dont need at all cd reduction.after you get glacial shroud and max your q you already have cap the 40%.glyphs i go magic res because i need to counter a bit the opposite mid until they buy magic pene boots.when they buy magic pen boots i take instantly the mercury's.dont buy archangel until very late late game.i even see someone to upgrade tear to a manamune.the best build for ryze is something like mercury,banshees veil,wota,tear of goddess,frozen heart and void staff even if i like to take as a last item warmogs.ryze is deadly with level 2 ganks.last hit with auto attacks and harass your opponent with your q.dont spend mana with the w or e for harass.the normal rotation is q-e-q-w-q-(you w8 1 second then)-ulti and again the same rotation.if you want to initiate you can just flash w anyone.for optimal damage use the normal rotation.
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Are you level 30? Runes and masteries help a lot on Ryze. But he is strong regardless. It is better to not use your spells to last hit with Ryze until you get a tear of the goddess and/or blue buff. But yea, just get used to last hitting with Ryze. I prefer putting the 3 points into AD in the offensive tree to help his last hit potential, since 3 AP is pretty useless on him.

Put the points into 4 extra damage to minions, not the extra attack damage.
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I am 30.
So should i rune only in Mana / Mp5? Magic Resist & Movement speed?

Run magic pen / flat mp5 / Mana or Mana per level and movespeed quints

This build will focus on your early game where farming and damage/tankiness is important. Remeber that with out a decent early game, there is no late game wink.gif
 
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Put the points into 4 extra damage to minions, not the extra attack damage.
Run magic pen / flat mp5 / Mana or Mana per level and movespeed quints
This build will focus on your early game where farming and damage/tankiness is important. Remeber that with out a decent early game, there is no late game wink.gif

Yeah forgot about the extra dmg to minions mastery, haven't changed my Ryze page in a long time but that's what I use I believe; 2 there, 1 in AD and 1 in ignite. I aim for an early kill instead of early farm, so I get flat mana in both seals and glyphs for the highest burst possible early. It also helps me have enough mana to where I don't need the regen until I have to blue pill anyways.
    
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9/21/0 is the best setup for Ryze. You get ~10% CDR from masteries, 20% from Frozen heart, and 10% from your Q passive. 21 in defense makes you really hard to kill.


Start with boots 3 or Saphire Crystal and health potions. Get a Tear or Catalyst on your first back, and then get the one you didn't get afterwards. Then finish your Catalyst, and get a Glacial shourd.

Boots: You can go either mercs or Sorcs. I usually go mercs as I get Void staff on Ryze all the time.
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Viktor is so good

His laser does so much duh muh guh (DMG)
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9/21/0 is the best setup for Ryze. You get ~10% CDR from masteries, 20% from Frozen heart, and 10% from your Q passive. 21 in defense makes you really hard to kill.
Start with boots 3 or Saphire Crystal and health potions. Get a Tear or Catalyst on your first back, and then get the one you didn't get afterwards. Then finish your Catalyst, and get a Glacial shourd.
Boots: You can go either mercs or Sorcs. I usually go mercs as I get Void staff on Ryze all the time.

Yeah I do the same. The mercs are just so much nicer in my opinion. The tenacity is great for Ryze since you're gonna be taking a bunch of the CC.

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Viktor is so good
His laser does so much duh muh guh (DMG)

Yeah I like Viktor, his burst is extremely high and he's a change of pace from normal AP carries.

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Do you mean 9/0/21 for mastery?

No I mean 9/21/0, for the reasons that Zack states. I used to use 9/0/21 with the old mastery tree, but with the remake its not necessary.
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Shyvana hell yeah ! When I first bought her, I didnt like her that much, but now I think she is awesome ! I was top against Shen, and he did not have a chance. I was just so beefy the entire game. At one point 4 enemies jumped me while I was trying to take a tower and I easily survived. Oh, and our Shaco jungler DC'ed half way through the game. They still didnt stand a chance biggrin.gif

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