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I think it is actually AD based on a % of his movement speed.
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(Innate): Hecarim ignores unit collision and gains attack damage equal to 10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20 / 22.5 / 25% of his bonus movement speed.

Every Hecarim should have a pocket Zil, Nunu and GP! Does Nunu and GP speed boosts stack?
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Every Hecarim should have a pocket Zil, Nunu and GP! Does Nunu and GP speed boosts stack?

They all stack, you really just want a janna on your team somewhere.
 
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I played 3 games on Hecarim yesterday, all AP jungle. While I only won 1/3, I was carrying the team in the fights we had in both games we lost. In the third game, I could smash the AD Hecarim who was using Tri Force easily. After tossing that AD Hecarim aside like he wasn't even there, I won't be playing him AD for a while. Want to see if he is a going to end up a viable AP jungler regardless of what people end up thinking, and even if they don't think so I'll make it viable tongue.gif.

As an aside, the two games I lost we had a full 5 team with 3 of the people combining for 2/3 of my wins. And two of those people just started playing again a couple weeks ago. Skillfactory and OddOne can attest to their skill levels...

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They all stack, you really just want a janna on your team somewhere.

Nunu jungle, Hecarim top, Zil mid, Janna + GP bottom? Sounds like a plan tongue.gif.
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Nunu jungle, Hecarim top, Zil mid, Janna + GP bottom? Sounds like a plan tongue.gif.

Hecarim Jungle, Nunu top, Janna mid, Zil + GP bot thumb.gif

For optimal Hecarim ganking potential!
    
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I played 3 games on Hecarim yesterday, all AP jungle. While I only won 1/3, I was carrying the team in the fights we had in both games we lost. In the third game, I could smash the AD Hecarim who was using Tri Force easily. After tossing that AD Hecarim aside like he wasn't even there, I won't be playing him AD for a while. Want to see if he is a going to end up a viable AP jungler regardless of what people end up thinking, and even if they don't think so I'll make it viable tongue.gif.
As an aside, the two games I lost we had a full 5 team with 3 of the people combining for 2/3 of my wins. And two of those people just started playing again a couple weeks ago. Skillfactory and OddOne can attest to their skill levels...
Edit: Can't wait to get my new monitors in the next week! Added them to my sig already haha.

What is your AP build for him? I tried AD jungle and wasn't that impressed.
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What is your AP build for him? I tried AD jungle and wasn't that impressed.

Masteries: 9/12/9
Runes:
Marks- Attack spd
Seals- flat armor or mana reg/lvl (prefer armor)
Glyphs- flat MR, MR/lvl, or AP/lvl (prefer MR)
Quints- HP, AP, or movement (choice really doesn't seem to matter)
Items:
  • Boots/3 or Cloth/5
  • If started cloth, get boots
  • Sheen
  • Merc treads or Ninja tabi (normally merc treads) *Note: only get sorc boots if only 1 CC and 1 minor AD carry or if AD carry is shut down
  • Lich Bane
  • Rabadon's Deathcap
  • Rylai's Crystal Scepter or Void Staff
  • Glacial Shroud, Banshee's Veil, Guardian's Angel, or FoN
  • Hextech Gunblade

A majority of the choices there are situational, but I always got Merc treads, Lich Bane and Rabadon's Deathcap. If you want, search Cynez in game and look at my match history. The three games I had should still all be there. Think I went 3/4/4 for my first game using him, 10/4/22 my second, and I forget the third. He is a very mobile champion which makes him great in the jungle and the ability to build him either AD or AP allows you to pick him in several situations. So far I find him as a strong AP jungler, and once I feel I've become a competent AP jungle Hecarim I want to write a guide. Last one I did was for my AP Warwick prior to his Q nerf 6 months or so ago frown.gif


Edit: For his AD jungle I would use same masteries, runes, and starting items but change out magic pen masteries for armor pen and any AP runes for AD ones. And for the AD jungle I would only change the setup following level 2 boots.
  • Trinity Force
  • Warmog's & Atma's
  • Glacial Shroud, Banshee's Veil, Guardian's Angel, or FoN
  • Hextech Gunblade, Bloodthirster, or Infinity Edge (situational buys if you don't need tankiness)

Edit 2: Want to try starting his jungle with his W a few times and see how viable it is. I know it won't be, but just curious. If not start with it, try the skill order Q -> W -> W ->E instead of my usual Q -> W -> Q -> E
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Masteries: 9/12/9
Runes:
Marks- Attack spd
Seals- flat armor or mana reg/lvl (prefer armor)
Glyphs- flat MR, MR/lvl, or AP/lvl (prefer MR)
Quints- HP, AP, or movement (choice really doesn't seem to matter)
Items:
  • Boots/3 or Cloth/5
  • If started cloth, get boots
  • Sheen
  • Merc treads or Ninja tabi (normally merc treads) *Note: only get sorc boots if only 1 CC and 1 minor AD carry or if AD carry is shut down
  • Lich Bane
  • Rabadon's Deathcap
  • Rylai's Crystal Scepter or Void Staff
  • Glacial Shroud, Banshee's Veil, Guardian's Angel, or FoN
  • Hextech Gunblade
A majority of the choices there are situational, but I always got Merc treads, Lich Bane and Rabadon's Deathcap. If you want, search Cynez in game and look at my match history. The three games I had should still all be there. Think I went 3/4/4 for my first game using him, 10/4/22 my second, and I forget the third. He is a very mobile champion which makes him great in the jungle and the ability to build him either AD or AP allows you to pick him in several situations. So far I find him as a strong AP jungler, and once I feel I've become a competent AP jungle Hecarim I want to write a guide. Last one I did was for my AP Warwick prior to his Q nerf 6 months or so ago frown.gif

i really dont like him as ap.2 skills only scale with ap.ulti have a good ratio but it have so long cooldown.and the w dont do so much damage.not really viable against good teams.also that build that you posted itse expensive as hell for a jungler.for normal can works tho
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Andy spots flowing red hair hair pouring over the back of a bus seat.
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Almost there he can smell the fragrance of shampoo, the hair, dangling, taunting him.
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