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Ashe is only strong level 1, then every other ADs just steam roll her, but she does pretty well against MF

I think it’s funny to see an ashe burn her 100% crit hit on a creep instead of the other teams carry (at lvl 1 or when returning from shop) followed up by volley and maybe 1 or 2 more auto attacks. If you ask me, it’s worth giving up maybe 2 or 3 creep to gain lane control and deny them creep until they recover with heals or hp pots.

If her R wasn't so much fun, then I wouldn’t care for her as much.
Edited by Myrtl - 5/8/12 at 11:21am
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Hello everyone! I am 20, in college and in CST. My name is Joseph or Joe, whichever you prefer.

I am new to overclock.net and very interested in getting involved! I played League of Legends in the Beta so I have the "Bowser" exclusive rammus skin.

I am decently experienced, but I seem to sit around 1300-1500 elo for season 2.
I LOVE ap mid, and always have. (For some reason I love playing Mages in every game I play). BUT! I can fill any role desired.

My favorite champs are continuously changing, but right now I am enjoying the new Ryze, testing AP Soraka mid, and have been loving on Vlad both top mid and sometimes 1v2 bot for a while now. I have spent entirely too much money on skins, and entirely too much IP on runes and rune pages (should of just bought more champs, as is I have a little more then half). thumb.gif

I am hoping to hop in same games and talk over vent with all of you! Are there a good amount of active players here?
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Ashe is only strong level 1, then every other ADs just steam roll her, but she does pretty well against MF

In direct comparison, there are definitely better AD carries than Ashe. Ashe's strength is not in damage however, it is in her utility. Hawkshot has MANY uses for a team. Volley does a crap ton of AOE poke if she has items and slows at the same time. Her Q is a perm slow as well. She also has a fairly large global AOE stun/slow that can help save, initiate, and kill steal.
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True, but her CC is what makes her so useful. In a team fight can slow everyone, pick off one person as they run and could make the odds in your favor. Yes she may not be a killing machine, but very viable mid/late game if played properly.

She really needs the right team comp to succeed, basically a team that can keep the other team off her. A dead Ashe at the beginning of a team fight makes her useless. If she has a Shen or a Mumu however that can keep enemies off her, she can kite you all day.
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I think it’s funny to see an ashe burn her 100% crit hit on a creep instead of the other teams carry (at lvl 1 or when returning from shop) followed up by volley and maybe 1 or 2 more auto attacks. If you ask me, it’s worth giving up maybe 2 or 3 creep to gain lane control and deny them creep until they recover with heals or hp pots.
If her R wasn't so much fun, then I wouldn’t care for her as much.

That is really only the thinking of a low level Ashe player. When you play Ashe, any player worth a damn laning against you knows that you will try to nail them with a crit shot. It is just a given. They will either wait you out until you either use it on a minion or dumbly engage them. Now you can clear some minions with a volley and try to bait them with it, but a good player will try to bait you instead or just wait you out while last hitting. I prefer to use it on the jungle to help out the jungler when I use to play Ashe or use it on the baby sitter and either force baby sitter to use heal or go back faster, leaving dps alone.
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Sion jungles are Meh :\
So excited to play vlad though. Been savin up for him biggrin.gif
2k more of IP to go!!

Vlad is amazing! As a mage tank I love him. Get some decent runes on him too =) He may have a slightly difficult early game against some, but he farms so hard and straight dominates later on.

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caitlyn can outrange ashe all day. She synergizes really well with bc, amongst others. Basically you trap the far bush, and then right inside your bush. Blitz, just closer than the trap in your bush can camp there. And when someone walks over the trap in the farther bush, he grabs and pulls them into the second trap. Follow with a popup and you have like 4-5 seconds to unload on someone, and after that, half the time they'll just want to escape. At level 6 add the silence, blah blah.
The buff to volley does give ashe a lot of pressure early game, but you can't really zone with ashe/soraka if the support has any functionality, so simply staying back and trying to stay in XP range for the first 2-3 levels is enough to outlevel the base damage on volley.
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Ashe is not an early game carry, but then again ranged AD champs are not early game carries. The reason why ashe/soraka is loved is simple because it turns the lane into a passive ashe farm lane. Ashe is loved in ranked team games because she has one of, if not the strongest initiate in the game. Her ult in competitive play is a game decider. Every ranged ad can auto attack and deal massive damage, but none except for possibly the new champ have her kind of CC.

Caitlyn is one of the stronger early game ADs, but she falls behind almost every other ranged ad late game.
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Dat Ashe early game? I want some of what you're smokin. After lvl 3 every AD bot lane is stronger than her... And while Corki can spam spells, he is also quite strong. This quote is over and underestimation all at once. Mind... blown...
Yeah I am going to agree with this to a point. No champ is unbalanced so you can do great as ashe, or terrible as ashe.

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True, but her CC is what makes her so useful. In a team fight can slow everyone, pick off one person as they run and could make the odds in your favor. Yes she may not be a killing machine, but very viable mid/late game if played properly.
She can definitely be a killing machine, just as every champ can be with some items built on them.
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Vlad is amazing! As a mage tank I love him. Get some decent runes on him too =) He may have a slightly difficult early game against some, but he farms so hard and straight dominates later on.

I love Vlad when I use to main with him a long time ago. After countless of nerfs though because noobs kept calling him broken, I started hating what Riot turned him into. I heard he is good again though.
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That is really only the thinking of a low level Ashe player. When you play Ashe, any player worth a damn laning against you knows that you will try to nail them with a crit shot. It is just a given.

Yeah, maybe I should have explained the give up only 2 or 3 creep a bit better rolleyes.gif. If you can get a poke, do it. I say this because I have seen people's first auto attack hit the creep right next to the other teams ranged carry.

Edit: If you are helping out your jungler, then thats a worthy cause too wink.gif.
Edited by Myrtl - 5/8/12 at 12:24pm
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Dis horse is really good.
Almost scored another penta with him.

330

Still need to tweak my build, because low early damage

items : boots+3hp pot
Upgrade boots
get hp/mana/gold regen
get lifesteal
upgrade to lantern
get sheen-malet-zeal = triforce
and lastly phantom dancer + maw of malmortius if enough gold

Runes: red: 9x +0.95dmg
yellow : 9x +0.06Dmg/level
blue +0.15 magic res/level
quint: 3x +0.25 dmg/level

masteries 21 9 0
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Yeah, maybe I should have explained the give up only 2 or 3 creep a bit better rolleyes.gif. If you can get a poke, do it. I say this because I have seen people's first auto attack hit the creep right next to the other teams ranged carry.
Edit: If you are helping out your jungler, then thats a worthy cause too wink.gif.

Ok so that is a different story. If an Ashe is in range of the opponent and derps her crit on a minion next to the enemy, either the player is a baddie or misclicked. Glad you explained. biggrin.gif Most of the time though, it is just a wait and bait game between Ashe and the enemy.
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Vlad is amazing! As a mage tank I love him. Get some decent runes on him too =) He may have a slightly difficult early game against some, but he farms so hard and straight dominates later on.

Ashe is not an early game carry, but then again ranged AD champs are not early game carries. The reason why ashe/soraka is loved is simple because it turns the lane into a passive ashe farm lane. Ashe is loved in ranked team games because she has one of, if not the strongest initiate in the game. Her ult in competitive play is a game decider. Every ranged ad can auto attack and deal massive damage, but none except for possibly the new champ have her kind of CC.
Caitlyn is one of the stronger early game ADs, but she falls behind almost every other ranged ad late game.
Yeah I am going to agree with this to a point. No champ is unbalanced so you can do great as ashe, or terrible as ashe.
She can definitely be a killing machine, just as every champ can be with some items built on them.


Varus is now an good early game AD carry . Nice harrasment with Q . tongue.gif
Played against him, could have been a good fight, but sadly he failed miserably.
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Vlad is either you get it right, or you feed

Back in the news, Vlad is pretty hard to play with. I won 1 and lost 1 vs Morde in the second game. His shield man...

Then bot (Varus vs Varus) was feeding so hard. Combined bot score @ 10 (0-10), and the other Varus had EVERY SINGLE KILL :|

Nuff said
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