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How are you guys liking the new ap items? (deathfire grasp, wota)
I just played veigar a few times and I like the extra ap from deathfire grasp. It was a short 3v3 so idk how I'll hold up without the extra mana regen.

I like how I can use DFG on rumble now. Oh, nasus what happened to your health?
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I was thinking about going with something similar. I find the choice between W and Q to be quite difficult... but due to how high the AD ratio is on Q, I could see how going for W could be more beneficial. I'm excited to play him in more games as I feel like he is going to have so many possibilities.
.... Hmm... I'm trying to think of how to build Varus, as you would initially think that attack speed would be most beneficial... but until your CD on your spells is lower, you're going to have plenty of time to build 3 stacks before using a spell. Do you think that building boots > IE/BT > (whichever you didn't do before) > PD would be viable? Trying to pace this out in my mind, as I'm still newer to AD carries, but I would think that you would be wanting to finish your PD around level 16 or so. Perhaps, boots > IE > PD? And then, since W is going to be magic damage, and a significant portion of your damage (depending on what your enemies build), I could see saving Last Whisper for late game to be very viable.

I do E before Q to ensure the enemy is slowed so I can catch them to kill.

I do doran's x 2 > Zerk greaves > IE > PD to get damage and stacks in the order more beneficial to his CDs as he levels. LW after PD if they build armor, which they will if you play Varus.
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I think the change to WOTA is good overall, but for me with AP morde, it's more trouble than it's worth as it takes me longer to complete my first item.
 
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How are you guys liking the new ap items? (deathfire grasp, wota)

I just played veigar a few times and I like the extra ap from deathfire grasp. It was a short 3v3 so idk how I'll hold up without the extra mana regen.

I don't play AP all that often, but the new cost of WOTA threw me off last night when I went back to base on Vlad and couldn't afford it. I haven't had a chance to play with the new DFG, but given the chance, I want to build it on Vlad and try it out.

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I do W before Q to ensure the enemy is slowed so I can catch them to kill.

I have a confused.

Q: Piercing Arrow - Nuke
W: Blighted Quiver - Stacks
E: Hail of Arrows - AOE slow

Q and E both lower CD when you raise them. W increases the percentage of HP lost when stacks explode.

I'm not quite sure I follow your logic for the above.

I definitely think maxing E first is your best bet. I think that Q and W are both great second choices for maxing, as going into midgame being able to chunk people for ~15% of their HP (on top of your other abilities) before they can stack MR sounds quite nice, but then again the huge range on Q makes it a great nuke if you skill it. Sorry, I know this is getting repetive, but I wanted a clarification on your end as E applies slow, not W or Q. :\
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Made DFG even more overpowered than it already is for burst damage mages because of the increase in range.Morello's tomb is a good change , but nobody ever uses grevious wounds anymore since the healing meta was good ; even then the old executioner's calling wasn't even used that widely.Its only good for those teams who like to stack heal to save the carry and even then ignite does it better with a longer duration with true damage.WotA change only delays the extra 8% spellvamp which didn't really matter for AoE mages who uses them anyway ; the problem stems from the fact that you don't have to break 300 AP in fights for them to wreck most of the enemy team's HP in addition to assasins being missing from the game and the fact that most AP items give some amount of health lead to health+spellvamp being all the survivability an AoE mage will ever need.
    
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Q and E both lower CD when you raise them. W increases the percentage of HP lost when stacks explode.
I'm not quite sure I follow your logic for the above.

I meant E not W.
    
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What changes were made to wota and dfg?
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What changes were made to wota and dfg?

No mana regen on dfg, increased range.

Blasting wand used to make wota, increased cost.
    
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Almost 1400 ELO

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I think OCN should have a team going into IPL

That'd be nice
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Thoughts on Varus so far:
(Bot game tested, very short laning phase with Leona.)
Definitely able to hit really hard once you get full stacks on an enemy.
Very easy to kill steal if they have a high stack count and you can land that Q.
Typical "combo" is exactly what Crunk mentioned.
Auto attacking in between spells are VERY important.
Very high micro managing required. If you rather right click to win, find another AD carry.
Q scales off AD
W scales off AP
E scales off AD
R scales off AP
Micro managing again! Make sure you get those last hits on creeps if you can before harassing/initiating. Attack speed ain't no joke.
Fits a more aggressive play style.
Works well with aggressive support heroes.
Not entirely sure how viable he will be in a normal game yet but he's sitting at around "acceptable/for fun" in my books for now.
Edit: His ult may not travel as fast as you expect it. (Spreading from enemy to enemy.)

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