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No I wasn't joking.
I have seen ALOT more "good" Teemos than Graves.
No need to insult. I personally think Teemo is great carry. Graves is good too, but I would take Teemo over Graves.
And that's that.

Teemo is a highly situational player and can be a great pub stomper with mushroom nukes, but at the end of the day he is like any other stealth player; highly predictable. Shrooms are worthless against a good team that wards and buy oracles. Sure you can still put them in a bush, but let's face it, good players know to look out for that crap. As far as carrying goes, I would hardly consider Teemo a carry by any measure. Carry is defined by having the ability to carry the team. Unless you are playing against bots or crap players, if a Teemo is dominating, something is wrong.

Graves on the other hand is a fairly tanky ranged DPS with an awesomely strong mid range game. He has great defensive abilities in smokescreen and that jump back thing. Due to his strong mid range game and tanginess, he actually is a carry and can also consistently dominate his lane when babysat by a support.
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I'm a fairly experienced league player and for the sake of saving a lot more reading I agree with above completely. Graves is a really good AD champ. Lots of burst damage and great defense for an AD carry.

Edit: however you're gouing to change your main a lot till you find something you like. Don't put all your eggs in one basket so early! Try all the free champs every week. Even if only to see how their abilities work to counter them later smile.gif
Edited by hello im sean - 5/18/12 at 2:06pm
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Just to add on.

General rules about players getting killed by shrooms:

1. Was it in a bush? If yes, totally your fault. You should know after one encounter with any halfway decent Teemo's that bushes will be shroomed. If it wasn't in the bush, well buy Oracles then and don't let it happen again.

2. If you get killed by shrooms again, refer back to rule number 1.
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Hi all, im new to LoL, only about 2 wks old, just wondering is there some kind of "guild" (i know there arent proper guilds in LoL) where fellow OCN can play w each other or something?

Anyway my username in LoL is "Alchemist007" if that helps.
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Get me a video with a good Teemo vs a good Graves

Then we'll talk
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Get me a video with a good Teemo vs a good Graves
Then we'll talk

Its not hard, just use blinding dart constantly (with enough CDR)
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Get me a video with a good Teemo vs a good Graves
Then we'll talk

Teemo versus any AD is not really a good matchup due to Teemo's blinding dart which causes AD DPS players to cry. In the larger scheme of the team game however, Teemo is not really an impressive champ.
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No I wasn't joking.
I have seen ALOT more "good" Teemos than Graves.
No need to insult. I personally think Teemo is great carry. Graves is good too, but I would take Teemo over Graves.
And that's that.

Graves was free recently, and he's one of the main AD carries to pick, hence why you see more bad ones. Most people who play Teemo only do now because they fixed his poison not too long ago on his auto attacks so people feel like he was super buffed, when in reality that's how he always was, just with a bug on his poison. Those who you still see playing Teemo are largely those who play him a lot like myself, so you're more likely to see a good Teemo than a good Graves. It's not that Teemo is bad, just not nearly as good at carry a game as any ranged carry. Don't get me wrong, I've carried plenty of games on Teemo, but it is far harder.
    
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Teemos autoattack range is too short, and he doesn't have any good steroids other than E which is very poor.

Graves will do a lot more damage than Teemo with the same gold/items.
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Graves was free recently, and he's one of the main AD carries to pick, hence why you see more bad ones. Most people who play Teemo only do now because they fixed his poison not too long ago on his auto attacks so people feel like he was super buffed, when in reality that's how he always was, just with a bug on his poison. Those who you still see playing Teemo are largely those who play him a lot like myself, so you're more likely to see a good Teemo than a good Graves. It's not that Teemo is bad, just not nearly as good at carry a game as any ranged carry. Don't get me wrong, I've carried plenty of games on Teemo, but it is far harder.

I stand by my comment that if Teemo carries the team, something had gone seriously wrong. biggrin.gif
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