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but the kills should go to carry if the carry is competent.

pretty much sums it up. if the carries aren't carrying, there's no helping it, sometimes the support has to pick up the slack. even if the support is fed, doesn't necessarily mean that their team isn't fed either, which happened to be the case in the nunu vs other team case. ultimately, if the team sucks, there's nothing that can be done regardless of how hard you carry. at time like those gotta just bite the shaft and take it like a woman.
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Been playing MOBA since Tide of Blood on WC3 and Dota and I have yet to lose interest in it.

I miss Tides of Blood so much. Too bad we shot ourselves in the foot because of how high skill/team work oriented it was. Anyone downloading the game was instantly booted from the game to keep newbs out so everyone could have a good game. Since no one ever let anyone new "learn" the game, less and less people played it while DOTA became bigger and bigger even though it sucked in comparison.

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KSing a carry's kills is horrible unless the carry has no means of catching the escaping enemy.

Anytime I support and I "have to" get the kill, I always apologize to the carry. Luckily, most understand when they are out of range. The hardest call is when it comes down to who ever auto attacks next kills the other carry. Then as a support, do you risk your carry getting killed by the enemy carry, or do you "KS" to make sure your carry doesn't die.

Also, I think it’s funny when both carrys back to shop/heal leaving the supports in lane and they become crazy aggressive and harass one another more in those 1-2 mins than they ever harassed the other team's carry. Battle of the supports!
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Man I loved tides of blood. You'd never lose a match unless you deserved it and it was possible to make a comeback from any situation.
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Anytime I support and I "have to" get the kill, I always apologize to the carry. Luckily, most understand when they are out of range. The hardest call is when it comes down to who ever auto attacks next kills the other carry. Then as a support, do you risk your carry getting killed by the enemy carry, or do you "KS" to make sure your carry doesn't die.
Also, I think it’s funny when both carrys back to shop/heal leaving the supports in lane and they become crazy aggressive and harass one another more in those 1-2 mins than they ever harassed the other team's carry. Battle of the supports!

This happened to me every once in a while. It's actually quite hilarious when it does. Usually I am playing Taric bottom lane when it happens. The last time it happened, it was me and Graves bottom against Alistar and Ashe. Anytime I try to get close enough to try and stun Ashe, the stupid cow would knock me away. It didnt help that both Ashe and Graves were the most passive carries I have ever laid eyes on. They weren't bad, just passive. 't both Ashe and Graves went back and so I got bored and invaded Alistar's bush and since both of us had nothing but GP5 items, it was just melee, melee, stun/knock up/knock back, repeat. Vicious battle of low DPS that went on probably way longer than it should have (Ashe and Graves decided just to watch the battle unfold from their fountains), but everyone got a kick out of it.
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Anivia is a good mid. Can also split up the enemy team with a wall to ensure you win team fights wink.gif
Also you turn into a egg before you die.
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Anivia is a good mid. Can also split up the enemy team with a wall to ensure you win team fights wink.gif
Also you turn into a egg before you die.

Wall is a double edged sword. In the hands of a great Anivia player without lag, it can be devastating. In the hands of a poor Anivia player or lag, it can be devastating to your own team. It is like a Gragas ultimate. Egg is next to useless after laning phase. Unless you are going tank Anivia or the opposing team is full of noobs, egg is either ignored or killed super fast.
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Wall is a double edged sword. In the hands of a great Anivia player without lag, it can be devastating. In the hands of a poor Anivia player or lag, it can be devastating to your own team. It is like a Gragas ultimate. Egg is next to useless after laning phase. Unless you are going tank Anivia or the opposing team is full of noobs, egg is either ignored or killed super fast.

Basically a free Guardian Angel tongue.gif
It tends to work better when your laning and protected by a tower.
Can also buy some time for your jungler when the enemy team is ganking you.

But I agree on the wall.
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Basically a free Guardian Angel tongue.gif
It tends to work better when your laning and protected by a tower.
Can also buy some time for your jungler when the enemy team is ganking you.
But I agree on the wall.

Anivia is what one calls a paper tiger or dragon. On paper, she is the ultimate caster; she has it all. She has:

- A controlled skill shot AOE stun (even if it is only for half a second) with huge distance
- An AOE slow that you can toggle
- An AOE terrain barrier with wall, one of the largest melee range with decent early damage
- An 1:1 AP ratio on her main attacks when her combos are properly landed
- A passive that potentially grants you a 2nd life

That sounds great right? Then you dig deeper as you play her and realize the following:

- Her stun is a skill shot meaning that you must lead and opponents can dodge
- She has one of the lowest starting HP and mana pools of all the champs
- She has one of the slowest movement speeds of all the champs
- Egg is useless past laning phase or if you die in laning phase outside your tower range
- Bad wall placement can make your teammates hate you for the rest of the game
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I think the egg has 2 great uses.

Early game:
When you're playing a greedy guy that wants a kill bad and will stupidly dive you under your tower. Sure you'll die and go into egg, but hopefully if you last hit him and the tower aggros him he may be taken out. Another great use is for making yourself appear dumb and making yourself open so you drop an R on a guy and he nukes you and your jungle runs in while he's trying to beat you to death and kills him. That aspect of the egg works throughout the entire game. It's also great if you the enemy team manages to get to the rear and take anivia out. Most people want to attack the egg to ensure their damage doesn't go to waste with a full HP anivia rebirthed from the egg. So they'll stand right next to the egg doing damage despite your teammates pummeling him to death.

So yeah..it is sort of a GA in a sense. Sometimes better and sometimes worse, but it's free and doesn't take up an item slot.

Also your icon is awkwardly pulling my attention. I think it's just cuz it's a moving Gif though.
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I think the egg has 2 great uses.
Early game:
When you're playing a greedy guy that wants a kill bad and will stupidly dive you under your tower. Sure you'll die and go into egg, but hopefully if you last hit him and the tower aggros him he may be taken out. Another great use is for making yourself appear dumb and making yourself open so you drop an R on a guy and he nukes you and your jungle runs in while he's trying to beat you to death and kills him. That aspect of the egg works throughout the entire game. It's also great if you the enemy team manages to get to the rear and take anivia out. Most people want to attack the egg to ensure their damage doesn't go to waste with a full HP anivia rebirthed from the egg. So they'll stand right next to the egg doing damage despite your teammates pummeling him to death.
So yeah..it is sort of a GA in a sense. Sometimes better and sometimes worse, but it's free and doesn't take up an item slot.
Also your icon is awkwardly pulling my attention. I think it's just cuz it's a moving Gif though.

The only time when this is appropriate is if the enemy team has chased off your teammates, otherwise attacking egg before the team fight is actually won is typically a sign of a bad team. Blowing spells on egg is a waste of time as Anivia is all but useless by herself against an enemy team. She is a GREAT top solo though. biggrin.gif
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