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I'd say the 6850 or the 5770.

The 5770 as it's cheap, it'll play most games quite well at medium resolutions (usually handling 1080p just fine) and they're cheaply and readily available.

OR:

The 6850. Why not the 6870? Or the 5850?
Well, the 6850 overclocks very well. Generally, you'll find that people (reviewers and myself included) have a problem pushing 1000 Mhz, but generally get pretty close without increasing the voltage to the core. By comparison, the 6870 will reach practically the same speeds (a tiny bit more, I've heard), meaning that the overclock percentage is far lower.

I'm not saying that the 6850 is a better card than the 6870. It's not. However, it overclocks so much more (percentage-wise), and is roughly similar in performance once both are "fully" overclocked, that it's a brilliant card for its money. It also draws less power and (with the right cooler - e.g. Asus') runs cooler. Mine, overclocked to 975 Mhz core, 1125 Mhz memory (it could go higher, but I've not been pushing as hard as I can - it's just a nice, stable overclock) can go to about 65C in furmark on my custom fan setting, meaning I don't need to put it to 100% and kill my ears all of the time (but the option's there if you want to run it hotter with more volts).

The 5850 is a good card, but crossfires worse, and, at least here, tends to cost about the same price, but runs hotter and from what I understand, doesn't overclock quite as well. However, the 6850 and the 5850 are very close. The reason that I pick (and picked) the 6850 over the 5850 was because it runs cooler (especially with the right aftermarket cooler).

My knowledge of the 5850 is that temperatures just don't compare.
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It's either the 6850 if you're into GPU voltage modding/flashing, or the 6870.
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6950 and flash it to a 6970 , do not get a 68XX ... Dont waste your money .
    
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6950 and flash it to a 6970 , do not get a 68XX ... Dont waste your money .
Nah, if he goes in the $300 range, he should go for the GTX 570. No question.
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Nah, if he goes in the $300 range, he should go for the GTX 570. No question.
I guess your right , fermi is better than ati's offerings atm .. But your paying more so what do you expect ? 570 and 6970 are real close in performance , depends if you like ati or nvidia .. personally i hate nvidia , there old gfx card turned me off them .. 9800gt , gtx280 they were horrible .. i will never buy nvidia again .

ati's 69XX cards will be here soon , we will see wat nvidia has to offer us then ..
    
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I owned a 5850, hit 1GHz, which is faster than a 6870 can ever be. Untill you enter crossfire. But if you decide on crossfire as a possible option, sli 460s are better and cheaper. similar to 6870s

Sorry to confuse matters. I sold my beloved 5850 and bought 2 460 hawks, couldnt be happier. Oh and for £320 which is the same price as a gtx 570/480 and DESTROYS both.

Id say if your just going to use 1 card get a 5850, they can be had for a little more than a 460, and make sure you get a reference version or the Asus voltage tweak so you can overclock it properly.

The 5850 is a down clocked 5870 you see, so setting the voltage to the same as a 5870 can yeild you 950mhz, or at least mine did. It would run at 1Ghz using 1.225v also, but not worth the bump for an increase of 50mhz.
    
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I owned a 5850, hit 1GHz, which is faster than a 6870 can ever be. Untill you enter crossfire. But if you decide on crossfire as a possible option, sli 460s are better and cheaper. similar to 6870s
My 6870 hit 1Ghz pretty easily...
Also 6870 crossfire is comparable and slightly better than 470 SLI. It blows the 460 SLI out of the water.
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6850 for mid range, 6950 for high end.

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My 6870 hit 1Ghz pretty easily...
Also 6870 crossfire is comparable and slightly better than 470 SLI. It blows the 460 SLI out of the water.
I had a 6870 that wasn't a good clocker, it would top out about 950 core on stock volts, and with higher volts it only helped a little bit while the heat went way up.

6850 on the other hand, can oc to generally just under 6870 ocs, and is only something like 5% or less slower clock per clock, so it is a much better buy.
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I had a 6870 that wasn't a good clocker, it would top out about 950 core on stock volts, and with higher volts it only helped a little bit while the heat went way up.

6850 on the other hand, can oc to generally just under 6870 ocs, and is only something like 5% or less slower clock per clock, so it is a much better buy.
Well I do agree that the 6850 has a much higher OC headroom (~20%) than the 6870s which overclock only about 10%. Though I do suspect you got somewhat unlucky with your 6870 that wouldn't go past 950Mhz...

But what if someone was not into voltage modding? Also you can get some 6870s for ~$200.
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Can almost buy new 6870 for price of used 5870.
uhm.. 5870 is a LOT faster then the 6870 in case u didnt know
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