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post #21 of 62
Yeah, you can't really bottle neck 6 cores at 4ghz, this kind of benchmark just shows that the gpu was the only bottleneck at such high resolution and overclock. Just also means that a 1100t at stock still won't bottleneck under current gaming conditions. Until you get to tri sli, the gpu's will be the bottle neck. See the graph doesn't budge with overclocks until they used tri sli, so it took 3 gpus to cause the bottleneck to be in the cpu.
Edited by Maelthras - 1/23/11 at 7:46pm
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The BS is this article claiming to be a CPU test but using 2560x1600 which everyone knows is a GPU bottleneck.
Read what the intro to the article says :

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If you look at the different reviews online it is not hard to assess that AMD might not be the best choice if you are aiming for the best graphics rendering performance. One can also find reports of multi-GPU setups being severely handicapped when coupled with a Phenom II processor as opposed to an I7. Of course, some of these tests are run at resolutions and image quality settings that only worsen the situation. Unlike such scenarios, this article will try to make full use of a powerful TRI SLI setup at resolution and image quality settings where high end GPU offerings are supposed to run ! Hopefully this will give us a more practical picture of the extent of the disadvantage that an AMD Processors puts you at, when you are running a high end gaming set up.
This test is perfectly logical and caters to a significant segment of gamers. High end GPUs are designed for high resolution gaming. If you want to game at 1280 x 1024, might as well run a 8800 GTS or or something. Only 2560 X 1600 does justice to modern high end cards and it is logical to run a CPU test at these settings.

The artilce is exploring the incorrect idea that a slow CPU is useless for gaming....
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First fail is that they did not include a Core i7 setup to compare, Second is that did not try a lower resolution. Even for Tri-SLI users having 30" Monitor is too much for the budget so no gamer really has that kind of resolution.
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Even for Tri-SLI users having 30" Monitor is too much for the budget so no gamer really has that kind of resolution.
Then dont get TRI SLI
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2.1 GHz NB is a joke...it's not even that hard to push the NB freq up to at least 2600 or 2800 MHz. All I did was bump CPU-NB voltage up a couple notches and I got to 3 GHz...
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Hopefully this will give us a more practical picture of the extent of the disadvantage that an AMD Processors puts you at, when you are running a high end gaming set up.
I don't understand what they are trying to prove....it sounds like they are saying AMD cannot deliver to the high end gamer. Or are they trying to say that it's really the GPU bottleneck that High End PCs need to worry about.

To me it seems like AMD runs just fine since they don't compare to the i7 like they mention.

Either way they failed whatever point they were trying to prove since they didn't OC the NB like Riou mentioned.
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the guy updated with NB running at 2.9ghz and at that high of a resolution it seems it doesnt do any good.

I dont see anything wrong with the outcome of his results???
    
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They're testing at 2560x1600. Games are MASSIVELY more GPU-limited than CPU-limited at those resolutions.
Agreed.

I would be amazed if there was any noticeable difference with a single GPU, due to CPU speed, at the settings that were being used.

Tri-SLI, as I expected, is the only configuration where CPU speed makes a significant difference.

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If they tested real world resolutions then the overclock might have helped.
2560 is a real world resolution for high-end SLI setups.

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First fail is that they did not include a Core i7 setup to compare, Second is that did not try a lower resolution. Even for Tri-SLI users having 30" Monitor is too much for the budget so no gamer really has that kind of resolution.
A 30 inch monitor is less than three high-end video cards.

Also, many people will be using even higher surround resolutions with SLI.

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the guy updated with NB running at 2.9ghz and at that high of a resolution it seems it doesnt do any good.

I dont see anything wrong with the outcome of his results???
Me either.
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Maybe I'm interpreting this the wrong way, but the way I see it, is that the Phenom II X6 is fast enough at stock speeds to fully feed those cards at that resolution.

so we are looking at GPU limitation, rather than CPU limitation?

That's how I see it.
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Agreed.

I would be amazed if there was any noticeable difference with a single GPU, due to CPU speed, at the settings that were being used.

Tri-SLI, as I expected, is the only configuration where CPU speed makes a significant difference.



2560 is a real world resolution for high-end SLI setups.



A 30 inch monitor is less than three high-end video cards.

Also, many people will be using even higher surround resolutions with SLI.



Me either.
Yes but you so more people with Tri-SLI setup then 30 inch monitors. Also as for SLI its still use 90% with resolution lower then 1600p.
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