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Uncore was only at 2.1 GHz. There might be some gains if the uncore was at 2.4 GHz and higher.
I was under the impression that the uncore is the CPU/NB if that's the case then the picture presented shows that it's a shade under 3.0 GHz, the NB frequency says 2950 MHz.
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So can someone sum up what this article really showed? I've got like three different perspectives from all the posts and they all seem to contradict each other. From what I've gathered (and what makes the most sense to me so far) is the GPU(s) was/were the bottleneck.

Edit: after reading the article I have come to the same conclusion: GPU bottleneck.
Edited by TyphoidKitten - 2/6/11 at 2:44pm
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Time form me to upgrade to 570's/6070's I think

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I cringe at the level of reading and comprehension displayed in the previous comments.
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So can someone sum up what this article really showed? I've got like three different perspectives from all the posts and they all seem to contradict each other. From what I've gathered (and what makes the most sense to me so far) is the GPU(s) was/were the bottleneck.

Edit: after reading the article I have come to the same conclusion: GPU bottleneck.
Bingo. At 2560 x 1600 the GPUs are massively taxed and therefore the CPU is "waiting" on the GPUs to catch up.

When I had a Phenom II with my 5970, gaming at 1080P with taxing games such as Crysis was good but not great. When I upgraded to i7, I was amazed at the difference I was getting in benchmarks. Even with stock clocks, I was getting higher FPS in all games than I was with a Phenom II 940 X4 @ 3.75 ghz.

Before anyone gets on me for my CPU upgrade, my friend got my parts at a good deal so everyone is happy (and I know how to overclock both AMD and Intel now ).

tl;dr
For systems with multiple GPUs and less than 2560x1600 res, go Intel or get bottlenecked.

Edit: Here's an example of the difference between the two. Both examples are obviously playable at these settings, but the difference matters in games like Crysis. Phenom II X4 @3.75 GHz on the top and my current i7 @4.30 GHz on the bottom. Same drivers, the only other difference being 1066 MHz DDR2 vs 1643 MHz DDR3. My average framerate with i7 is higher than my maximum framerate with the Phenom II.



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I was under the impression that the uncore is the CPU/NB if that's the case then the picture presented shows that it's a shade under 3.0 GHz, the NB frequency says 2950 MHz.
The site changed the picture. Originally, the NB frequency was at 2100 MHz. They must have updated the article to show 2950 MHz now.

It is true though that at high AA/AF levels and high detail, the bottleneck shifts more to the GPU. Nobody in their right mind uses tri-570's at low resolution, no AA/AF, and low details.
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The site changed the picture. Originally, the NB frequency was at 2100 MHz. They must have updated the article to show 2950 MHz now.
Yes...they updated the article :

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UPDATE : Originally the data for this article was collected with CPU NB Frequency at 2.10 GHZ. We have since made an update to the article with NB Frequency at 2.95 GHZ. The two titles that showed significant changes (upto 6% in TRI SLI mode @ 4.0-4.2 GHZ) were Resident Evil 5 and Far Cry 2
http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles...01100T/P1.html
post #57 of 62
TBH they probably overclocked using the multiplier, not raising the NB clock which yields the most performance...

Edit: quote from the article:

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UPDATE : Originally the data for this article was collected with CPU NB Frequency at 2.10 GHZ. We have since made an update to the article with NB Frequency at 2.95 GHZ. The two titles that showed significant changes (upto 6% in TRI SLI mode @ 4.0-4.2 GHZ) were Resident Evil 5 and Far Cry 2.
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the conclusion seems to be that sandy bridge and bulldozer are unnecessary for gaming as even an 1100T will not bottleneck a tri sli set up at high resolution. so then you gotta wonder why 90% of us are jumping for no reason.
^This.

I am still running a E8400 @ 3.9Ghz. Why such an old processor? Cause I have yet to run into performance issues at 1080 res while gaming with 4xAA and 8 or 16xAF. When I do, I'll upgrade. Even metro 2033 ran fine on my rig*.

Face it, game eye candy is stagnating due to the consolification of game development. I barely needed to ditch my 8800GT SLI setup.

Of course, Crysis 2 will send me packing to the Fry's, but that's still tomorrow. And tomorrow is another day.

(fine defined as >40fps a majority of the time and no hitching)
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Turn down the resolution to 1920*1080. I don't know if I would be able to tell the difference between 2650*1600 and 1920*1080 on a 23-28" monitor. If you really must play at 2650*1600 wait for Bulldozer.
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This has all been a very interesting read, but I wish there was such a huge comparison like this with Surround resolutions ~5760x1200 or so. Perhaps I just have to dig deeper.
 
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