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Thank you for your input. What you say makes absolute sense, and with all advice from everyone who actually wanted to help, I am leaning more toward the Sandybridge solution.
Your input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Yeah, I think SB is best for you as it has better single thread performance which can be seen here.

You wouldn't need a 2600K because you wouldn't use the hyper threading so a 2500K would be just fine. Water cooling isn't necessary because these chips are limited to max voltage, not heat. A good air cooler would get you over 5.0 GHz.
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...six San Ace 9SG1212G101 fans...
Thread title is misleading. Came in here looking for some tips and all I got was a measly RS240 for a 600D ! One of the better setups would probably be an exterior mounted GTX 480 w/ six shrouded San Ace 9SG1212G101 fans...
Edited by adamlau - 1/24/11 at 11:44am
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post #63 of 94
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'Seeing Red' and 'VW_TDI_02' thank you very, very much for your posts, they have been of great help .
What would be absolute max I can get the SandyBrige 2500K/2600K to, with my given application usage (ie. 5-10% max on 1 single core) and with a top of the range water-cooling system (lets just assume that I will go ahead with that solution for now) and a possible phase change system that I have in stock right now.
I also have another questions, for a multi-threaded solution where clock speed is once again of the greatest performance, would I then choose between the i7 and the Xeon X5680, once again assuming that I would overclock these to the maximum possible speed with either water cooling system (top of the range) or phase change. I know that I may be going off topic slightly, but the last 2 posters (Seeing Red and VW_TDI_02) have helped me immensely. Thanks guys
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...exterior mounted GTX 480 w/ six shrouded San Ace 9SG1212G101 fans...
Using what that guy said above, I am sure you could sustain 5.x GHz if the ambient temperature in the server room were low enough...
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Using what that guy said above, I am sure you could sustain 5.x GHz if the ambient temperature in the server room were low enough...
Yes, the temperature should be low enough. Ok, I am trying to shoot here and find out what the potential top end of the chosen processor would be (in this case, it would be Sandy Bridge). How far above 5Ghz would I be able to go, but to sustain a stable system ?
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You could probably find a custom built architecture that could run 6-7Ghz over a single core.
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How far above 5Ghz would I be able to go, but to sustain a stable system?
Only you would know once you started to overclock the system. Every chip/mobo/fan has its variances...
Bottom line is to build the system, overclock and report your results back to the forum for us to enjoy .
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post #68 of 94
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Thanks. That is what I aim to do. As soon as I have all the kit in place, I will do that. Many thanks
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OP if you want the absolute BEST then definitely don't go with the XSPC kit.
Agreed, the XSPC stuff is nice, but it is budget material.

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or some Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000 RPM which have amazing static pressure
Ultra Kaze's have no place in a non-penny pinching build. There fans with similar or superior pressure and air flow, at lesser noise levels, some of which don't cost that much more.

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Interested in how many volts it takes to get an i980x to 5ghz. and if a RS240 will be able to control it
Too many, and water cooling won't be sufficient, even if you can move all the heat away and keep the chip within a few C of ambient.

For 5GHz 24/7 to be viable on anything but the best 980x, you will need sub-ambient cooling.

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I think I will after all go with an Intel Xeon X5680 as recommended by some Intel guys for having been made from better components hence has a higher temperature resistance.
Xeons are made the same way as any other chip.

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The Xeon is around £1300 and has a TCase at 78.5C, while the 2600K is around £300 and has a TCase at 72.6C, so I cannot see how it can run cooler or take more resistance than the Xeon chip. Also, the 2600 has a lower Max Memory Bnadwidth
Once again I do stress, that money is not an issue in getting the best performance out of the box.
Wrong on all accounts.

The 2600k will draw less power and will thus run cooler with similar cooling.

Sandy Bridge has much greater memory bandwidth than Gulftown because it has a revamped memory controler and it's NB runs at full CPU speed.

The 980x or X5680 are only modestly faster than the 2600k in multi-threaded apps, and are slower in lightly threaded ones.

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It will be a machine that will execute a single command line application, hence no graphics cooling is needed, so the CPU speed is paramount here. The app will have a 5-10% load on a single core of the processor.
I already have a test rig with i7-980X and have got it to around 5.25Ghz with Coolit Freezone Elite, but am now trying to build a production machine hence price is not an issue.

Thanks
A 2600k will be faster than any LGA-1366 setup for the task you describe.

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I pushed it to 1.6V (some instances up to 1.625V), and it was prime stable.
Stability does not equal longevity.

1.6v will kill most Gulftowns, even on water, in fairly short order.

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It makes sense in a given scenario where every microsecond counts, and in mine it does
Which is exactly why the 2600k is the best option. It's all round faster and lower latency for lightly threaded use.

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His argument is that he only wants to use one core, and have that core complete a non-threaded serial task as quickly as possible. There is no practical application that applies to that scenario, thus; we got trolled.
There are practical applications where one thread is all that will be run and response time/latency is the critical factor.

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You wouldn't need a 2600K because you wouldn't use the hyper threading so a 2500K would be just fine. Water cooling isn't necessary because these chips are limited to max voltage, not heat. A good air cooler would get you over 5.0 GHz.
2600k is still worth it in this scenario. 33% more cache is a big deal (just not if it's 30-50% slower like it would be with a Gulftown vs SB)
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'Blameless', thanks a bunch...the best reply so far. You have me totally convinced now that SB is the way to go for what I need my app to do. Any ideas on which Mobo to get, as I previously had Asus Ramapage III Extreme ?
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