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Guess MeeGo doesn't have it?
MeeGo is for smartphones and netbooks. They don't want background watchdog processes wasting CPU time on those devices.
    
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So autosized of the auto argument, what about for the general user? Sure we all want to have full control but to do that requires knowing a lot more. What should the general user do then?
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I think the general user needs to weigh what is important enough to learn to do for himself and then just bite the bullet and do it. It is difficult to say, "This is trivial enough that I can afford staying ignorant of it and depend on others", I know, and maybe I take on too many learning curves sometimes, but there are relatively few things as long term as computers. It seems to me there is always going to be worthwhile advantage in knowing them deeply.

That said, I once began learning Assembly so I could write device drivers for OS/2 because of such limited hardware support (you think Linux is tuff for hardware!) and I did get to where I could write some decent stuff. However taking that on was naive because I was unaware of how little hardware information was made available to utilize for writing drivers from the ground up. Now, I'd be hard pressed to say "Hello World" anymore via Assembly. It did improve my debug skills though.

So each person just has to do his best to figure out what he can really use and often that means some dead ends, some missed opportunities, and some useless knowledge.

On a far less general tip, security, even in Linux (but dependent on where you go and what you do) is important and only going to get more important as the user base grows. It is worth finding out how "iptables" works because the rule sets are similar elsewhere in security applications. Then you can decide if you need such things as Snort, Tripwire, Nessus, etc. It's better than just hoping SELinux suits your specific needs IMHO.
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got bored...

boot up

opened terminal....

cd /

su

rm -rf *


didnt work
lol do it on a mac and it will work, (unfortunately for me at least) thought I was cd's into a different dir then boom... i was like... noooo!!!!

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there was actually a program written for windows that would bipass the security and remove every file on the drive it was ran from. this was XP of course, I haven't gotten into malicious code since way back... I know it works from first hand experience, unfortunately I lost the file and couldn't remember where I got it from. It was back when I was into Sub7 and all that, nasty stuff though. Generally windows won't let you format C, but apparently the glitch was not formatting but finding a way to remove the file tables in the FS. Interesting way to think outside the box though.
echo y | format C:
That usually worked for DOS and win95/98/ME systems...
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I think the general user needs to weigh what is important enough to learn to do for himself and then just bite the bullet and do it. It is difficult to say, "This is trivial enough that I can afford staying ignorant of it and depend on others", I know, and maybe I take on too many learning curves sometimes, but there are relatively few things as long term as computers. It seems to me there is always going to be worthwhile advantage in knowing them deeply.

That said, I once began learning Assembly so I could write device drivers for OS/2 because of such limited hardware support (you think Linux is tuff for hardware!) and I did get to where I could write some decent stuff. However taking that on was naive because I was unaware of how little hardware information was made available to utilize for writing drivers from the ground up. Now, I'd be hard pressed to say "Hello World" anymore via Assembly. It did improve my debug skills though.

So each person just has to do his best to figure out what he can really use and often that means some dead ends, some missed opportunities, and some useless knowledge.

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like my grandmother use to say "locks keep honest people honest"

took me awhile to figure out what she meant by that.
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did a full kde fedora install... totally disabled selinux... and rm -rf --no-preserve-root / still doesnt work
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was gonna try ubuntu buuut fail on a su password on a live disc >:[
I think you just leave it blank and hit Enter don't you?
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I think you just leave it blank and hit Enter don't you?
nope, tried that first ofc...

ubuntu is horrid on root password stuff
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nope, tried that first ofc...

ubuntu is horrid on root password stuff
I was running into the same problem with their live CD a few months ago when I was playing with it. I'll see if I can find what it ended up being...

I think you have to create a password for the session using "$ sudo passwd ubuntu" which would make the password be "ubuntu"
Edited by clark_b - 2/2/11 at 7:16am
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