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High end chips are $1000.....





No, that's all intel right there, no justification
    
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Nope no clue.

All I know is the 1090T I bought two months ago for $230 is creamed in every possible way from single threaded to multi-threaded by my $225 i5-2500k.

Also this conversation has gone stale and has become a riddled with semantics. Yes Thuban is based on k10, however there hasn't been a completely new design from AMD since k8, bulldozer will be frist since then.

Thanks though for the conversation, I'm gonna go get 8 points in cinebech with my 4 cores, take care.
    
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All I know is the 1090T I bought two months ago for $230 is creamed in every possible way from single threaded to multi-threaded by my $225 i5-2500k.
That you bought it two months ago doesn't mean the architecture is two months ago, you know.

That's a logical issue you have there.

Get your 8 points in Cinebench, while you "play" benchmarks I'll go kill some fags on BFBC2
   
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No, that's all intel right there, no justification
lol I know right?

It's been so long since AMD had a $1000 chip you probably weren't even self aware when they had one.

Heres a little piece of history for you.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CHYQ8wIwAA#



I don't have a logical issue. I live in the now, stop living in the past. The point was why buy now, not why buy it 5 months ago.
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JF-AMD can you confirm or deny whether the image at the top is legitmate?
He doesn't comment on speculative dribble, like that graph which is suspect. And I don't blame him. We simply have to wait for reputable sites to bench it.
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Nope no clue.

All I know is the 1090T I bought two months ago for $230 is creamed in every possible way from single threaded to multi-threaded by my $225 i5-2500k.
2 months ago. But it has been sitting below 300 for longer than 2 months. At the time it was extremely competitively priced. Remember. SB is 1 month old.

Benchmarks are benchmarks. Real world I can see encoding being faster. But for games. Absolutely negligable.
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I don't have a logical issue. I live in the now, stop living in the past. The point was why buy now, not why buy it 5 months ago.
Yes you do. You're pretending that a chip bought six months later to launch would still keep up with Intel's flagship brand new architecture.

And that sir, is having a logical problem.

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But for games. Absolutely negligable.
You have a point there. Are you going to win... 3 FPS above 60? 12 above 130? Geez, that's useless.
   
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Balla, cinebench @4Ghz please!

Balla's correct in saying that at the moment, if you're buying a completely new set up (mobo, cpu, ram) then SB is the value choice. Obviously it isn't true if you allready have an Am compatible mobo to upgrade your cpu with.

But, as others have said, wait for BD, then argue AMD pricing.

Also, the only SB cpu's anyone ever mentions on here are the 'K' editions, a total of two cpu's, everyone selectively forgets about the performance / cost of the other non 'k' chips.
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lol I know right?

It's been so long since AMD had a $1000 chip you probably weren't even self aware when they had one.

Heres a little piece of history for you.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CHYQ8wIwAA#



I don't have a logical issue. I live in the now, stop living in the past. The point was why buy now, not why buy it 5 months ago.
I'm going to assume that is a current price for its rarity, I looked up that model and all the reviews I found were of a very competitively chip for that model

I been a fan of AMD since the launch of 64 and never seen a chip that expensive, however, I have seen intel sell year after a $1k chip for no ******* reason other than "we are intel, we can get some lsoers to pay for this"
    
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2 months ago. But it has been sitting below 300 for longer than 2 months. At the time it was extremely competitively priced. Remember. SB is 1 month old.

Benchmarks are benchmarks. Real world I can see encoding being faster. But for games. Absolutely negligable.
And when I bought the 1090T it was right there with the i5-750, but the single thread and gaming performance was lacking. The 1090T was just as fast as the 555 I had, and the 965 I had in almost ever game I played. Why even have a x6? It makes almost no sense for most users. Gamers clearly don't need 6 slow cores.

I would agree the gaming aspect is decent enough on the AMD chips, until you start adding more gpus, at which point they become a massive bottleneck. I already saw a 70% bottleneck in Vantage on my 1090T with 4.4Ghz core, 3.2GHz NB. And that was with a single gtx 470.

Sure you don't need two or three high end gpus, but you don't need an x6 either, so don't try to argue from that vantage point because you'll be in the same spot.

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Yes you do. You're pretending that a chip bought six months later to launch would still keep up with Intel's flagship brand new architecture.

And that sir, is having a logical problem.



You have a point there. Are you going to win... 3 FPS above 60? 12 above 130? Geez, that's useless.
All I've stated was that at the $180-$225 price point INTEL is clearly the better choice, there is currently almost no reason to buy an AMD 965 or higher.

AMD is not your buddy, and they aren't your friend. They're trying to run a business based off making money, and because their performance has been so lacking over the last 6 years they've gained a reputation of providing decent performance at a good price. And while that is nice, it's not because AMD is an angel, it's because they had no other option.
    
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