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What is better between the 32ohms version and the 80ohms version if I do not use an Amp?

I thought that lower resistance offered better sound?

And any feedback for the Fischer Audio FA-003 vs DT770?
I'm sort of an audio n00b, so I'm not sure about the impedance question.

I took at look over at headfi (I recommend cruising over there if you want to do some serious research, those dudes are nuts), and basically the Beyers can produce a lot of bass, and have comfy velour pads. The FA-003s have a "neutral" and "open" sound and are also seemingly light and comfy with their leather pads. Both provide good isolation.

From your musical taste maybe the Fischers would be better unless you want some more bass.
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Any more opinions?

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post #13 of 23
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What is better between the 32ohms version and the 80ohms version if I do not use an Amp?

I thought that lower resistance offered better sound?

And any feedback for the Fischer Audio FA-003 vs DT770?
I don't quite understand that question, what are you asking? The 32ohm version will be easier to drive then the 80ohm version.
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I don't quite understand that question, what are you asking? The 32ohm version will be easier to drive then the 80ohm version.
He meant 320 ohms. The DT770 Pro only comes in 320 and 80 ohm variants.
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Yes the DT770's DO come in 32 ohms. The Beyerdynamic site lists the DT770's as 32, 250 and 600 ohms so I don't know where 80 or 320 comes from? See:

http://north-america.beyerdynamic.co...re/dt-770.html

It depends on what you're driving the headphones with, and how loud you like your music, but a lot of headphone outputs have problems with anything above 32 ohms or so.

The bottom line is if you're mainly using a laptop, typical computer headphone jack, or a portable device to drive the headphones you want fairly sensitive headphones with, ideally, a 16-32 ohm impedance.

It turns out the Fischer FA-003's are way more sensitive than the DT770's (105 dB/mW vs 96 db/mW) so they literally need EIGHT TIMES LESS power to produce the same volume (assuming you can believe the specs).

So even though you'll get only half the effective power into the Fischer's 64 ohms vs the 32 ohm DT770's the Fischer's will still play significantly louder. If you only listen at low volumes, it probably doesn't matter.

You can forget the 250 or 600 ohm DT770's unless you use a headphone amp. They're just too inefficient to work very well without one at those impedances.

There's a lot of mis-information and myths about headphone impedance, headphone amps, etc. I've tried to clear some of it up in my blog if anyone wants to geek out on the real facts:

http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/...impedance.html
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Yes the DT770's DO come in 32 ohms. The Beyerdynamic site lists the DT770's as 32, 250 and 600 ohms so I don't know where 80 or 320 comes from? See:

http://north-america.beyerdynamic.co...re/dt-770.html
We were talking about DT 770 Pro.

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This means that the DT 770 PRO with 250 ohms sound more natural, but plays (depending on the used headphone amplifier) not as loud as the 80 ohms version.
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post #17 of 23
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We were talking about DT 770 Pro.
Ah! I stand partly corrected. But those still don't come in 320 ohms that I can see and the same advice mostly applies. The spec sheet lists the same low sensitivity of 96 dB/mW for both the 80 ohm and 250 ohm versions of the DT770 Pro.

So I'd steer clear of both versions of the DT770 Pro unless a headphone amp or something else with an unusually high clean output is used.

The Fischers will work far better on a typical computer or portable headphone output. Another option would be the DT770 M version which has much higher sensitivity. But I don't know much about them beyond having read some negative reviews about their sound quality and high clamping pressure (typical of high isolation headphones). They're not really designed for music listening, but live monitoring. So the higher efficiency makes sense to overcome live drums, etc.
Edited by nwavguy - 2/9/11 at 2:34pm
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The Sennheiser HD 558's are also a viable candidate for your selection.
post #19 of 23
if you want precise sound, then get the MDR-V6
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He meant 320 ohms. The DT770 Pro only comes in 320 and 80 ohm variants.
No there is a new 32 ohm version. The others are 80, 300, and 600 ohms.

I have the 80 pros. I love them. Amazing bass for movies/games/bassy music. Great all-around cans.
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