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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

Hoping you could do what you've undoubtedly done a billion times before and give me advice on my new build. This will be my first build so please be merciless. It's good to be hard on the neophytes. Helps them learn.

CASE: Coolermaster Cosmos S
CPU: Core i7 950
MOBO: Asus P6X58D-E
COOLER : Noctua NH-D14
PSU: Corsair TX750
RAM: Corsair CMX6GX3M3A1600C9
GPU: 2x Sapphire HD6850 Crossfire
HDD: 300GB Velociraptor
STORAGE HDDs: 2TB Caviar Black
2x 2TB Caviar Green
OPTICAL: Liteon IHOS104-37 Blu-Ray
LG GH22NS50.AUAA DVD Writer

I wanted to go with a cheaper case, for example the NZXT Lexa S, but I couldn't guarantee that the Noctua would fit inside. My other idea would be to go with the Lexa and use a Corsair H50 instead (using a Domino ALC at the moment and temps could be better). I'm way too green to build my own loop right now but will study it further for the future.

I'm planning on overclocking the CPU and GPUs, but I'm not a militant overclocker. I'll probably only do what I've done on my current PC, and just see how far I can get with CPU voltage increases alone. I don't know enough about NB and RAM voltage and so on to risk frying anything. I've got one HD6850 already running comfortably at 900/1150 so that's good enough for both, I guess.

Thanks a lot for reading all this guff, and possibly also helping out. I'd offer to someday return the favour, but that would smack of a lamb telling a wolf how to hunt, so I'll just say ta muchly and leave it there. Maybe I can just promise not to be any kind of hindrance in the future.
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post #2 of 10
I would do this:
Case: Corsair 600 T
CPU: Core i7 930 (unless the 950 is cheaper) as they tend to overclock better
Cooler: Something else smaller, Megahalems, Venomous X, ect. they tend to be just as good, and not block out tons of space, maybe 1c separates them
PSU: Good
Ram: Good
Gpu: Good since you already have one, other wise go with a 6950 instead of two 6850's
HDD: 64GB A-Data or comparable (much faster boot times, load times, ect. than Velociraptor, plus lot less noise)
Storage: Stick with the Green's, you don't need the speed of the Black
Optical: can't go wrong, just grab a combo drive (blu ray and dvd burner, or a blu ray burner what ever suits your fancy)
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Inb4 go SB flame!!!
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post #4 of 10
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Cheers for the advice, appleg33k85. Much appreciated. I was actually thinking of the Corsair graphite case (I have a thing for really minimalist-looking cases) but, again, wasn't sure it would fit the d14. I'll look at the coolers you recommended instead, thank you very much indeed.

Given that I run things like Ableton Live and Steam from my secondary hard drive, would a Caviar Green have sufficient speed to ensure no slowdown?
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post #5 of 10
How come you aren't looking at a Sandy Bridge build?

For new builds SB is the way to go right now
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post #6 of 10
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To be honest, it's only because I started imaginarily assembling this build a few months ago and it's barely been updated since. I'm woefully behind on new advances and tend to stick to what I know. I will, however, look into Sandy Bridge if it's considerably better (and of a similar price).

Doesn't using the multiplier to overclock rather than the actual clock speed reduce the precision of the overclock?
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
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post #7 of 10
The rest of the build looks good, but I will switch out the i7-950 for a i7-2600k and get an ASUS or Gigabyte board for it. Do you only have the 6850? How much storage do you need in total? I would probably do a C300 SSD + Samsung F3 1TB, plus some WD Greens 2TB for storage.
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post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks very much for your advice - I've looked over reviews for the Sandy Bridge processors but I keep running into people warning about poor overclocking performance. Is it worth the additional cost?

I'd like to have a large amount of storage from the off, say 6TB, because I'd like to keep backups of all my video files and I've already got a good 1.5TB. Considering I'd just end up adding more later anyway, I'd like to just go with it from the beginning. I was considering an SSD based on a previous poster's advice but I worry about the whole limited write cycles thing, plus I'm wondering whether it's an improvement significant enough to justify the higher cost per GB; is a few seconds shaved off your boot-up time worth it?

In answer to your other question, I've already got two 6850s and, since even one can run all my most recent games on maximum settings with 8xAA, I think two would just about burn your face off.

I think I will definitely go with the samsung drive as my second, but I'll look into SSDs a bit more before deciding on that.
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Q9650 @ 3.5Ghz Asus P5QL HD6850 2x2GB Corsair DDR2-800 
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post #9 of 10
Can't see much difference between 930 and 950 OC results - http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ml#post6483829 - but not recommending either.

Sandy Bridge. You can get to 5GHz to at least validate, so I wouldn't call it poor. You just have to get a K model and, even tho' i'm usually a Gigabyte guy, an Asus P8P67 mobo to suit. Gigabyte don't seem to have the bios good enough yet.

The overclock thing, well anything but a K won't OC much, and the board that lets you use on chip graphics won't let you OC much, while the boards that do let you OC won't use the on-chip graphics. Confusing eh? You've already got your graphics so the on-chip graphics are nothing to you.

Anyway that brings me back to a 2500K or 2600K with an Asus P8P67.

The only reasons I haven't done it is mun and that I've already got a "good enough" system, but if I was upgrading today ......
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post #10 of 10
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Thanks for the advice (man, I should just copy and paste that every time).

Thanks also for the link, which leads me to believe that in fact the 920 would be the better choice among the i7s, overclocking-wise. I'm wouldn't be looking at a massive overclock anyway, and my main concern is ease. Like I've said, I'm not a militant overclocker, but I would like to get a good 20-25% extra and sandy bridge seems to be the best way to go. As far as I understand it, people tend to get high overclocks changing nothing but the multiplier (not even voltage, apparently). The statistics of the 2600k worry me a bit though, I seem to remember reading only 50% can reach 4Ghz.

I cannot deny the strident recommendation of it from all you guys, however, so I'll try to assemble another build using Sandy Bridge and see how it comes out.
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