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post #41 of 90
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For the new GE, no. There is nothing to unlock.
Will it be clocked higher than the standard TFII? Or are you guys going to keep the Hawk notation?
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So then does this mean that there won't be any GTX 570s binned as GTX 560s?
Totally different GPU :/
    
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post #43 of 90
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Totally different GPU :/
So then it's not possible for a manufacturer to bin a GTX 570 as a GTX 560 by giving it the BIOS of a GTX 560?

I mean, with the Golden Edition GTX 465s, they were actually GTX 470s binned as GTX 465s. I mean, the normal GTX 465s have the GF100-030-A3 chip while the "unlockable" GTX 465s have the GTX 470 GPU which is the GF100-275-A3 chip (as well as having 10 memory chips, of course).
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So then it's not possible for a manufacturer to bin a GTX 570 as a GTX 560 by giving it the BIOS of a GTX 560?

I mean, with the Golden Edition GTX 465s, they were actually GTX 470s binned as GTX 465s. I mean, the normal GTX 465s have the GF100-030-A3 chip while the "unlockable" GTX 465s have the GTX 470 GPU which is the GF100-275-A3 chip (as well as having 10 memory chips, of course).
The only possible unlock would have been if there were 570 GE's ..(same pcb as 580, missing memory chips, phases, etc. )
The 560 is a whole new pcb, physically different chip.
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The only possible unlock would have been if there were 570 GE's ..(same pcb as 580, missing memory chips, phases, etc. )
The 560 is a whole new pcb, physically different chip.
Oh REALLY!

Hey Alex! Can you get MSI to make some GTX 570s that unlock to GTX 580s? hehe That would be the Super Golden Edition.
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post #46 of 90
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So then does this mean that there won't be any GTX 570s binned as GTX 560s?
As already mentioned, GF100/110 is not the same GPU as GF104/114. You can't unlock what you don't have.

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Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post
Will it be clocked higher than the standard TFII? Or are you guys going to keep the Hawk notation?
Yes.

And Hawk will be a separate card by itself.

Hawk > Twin Frozr II SOC > GE > Twin Frozr II OC > TFII

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
So then it's not possible for a manufacturer to bin a GTX 570 as a GTX 560 by giving it the BIOS of a GTX 560?

I mean, with the Golden Edition GTX 465s, they were actually GTX 470s binned as GTX 465s. I mean, the normal GTX 465s have the GF100-030-A3 chip while the "unlockable" GTX 465s have the GTX 470 GPU which is the GF100-275-A3 chip (as well as having 10 memory chips, of course).
Again, there's nothing to unlock.

GTX465 is a 25% cut-down GF100. NVIDIA wanted to fill out its product stack and GF100s weren't sold fast enough, so some were binned to be sold as GTX465. However, a handful of chips were able to be unlocked, and we made them the GTX465 GE.

If there are cut-down GF110s sold as GTX570, then yes, it would be possible to make another one of these cards. However, given that yield and manufacturing issues were fixed with GF110, I highly doubt this would be the case.


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Oh REALLY!

Hey Alex! Can you get MSI to make some GTX 570s that unlock to GTX 580s? hehe That would be the Super Golden Edition.
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post #47 of 90
Hey MSI alex....clocks of that 560 Twin froz II ??

It will beat that extreme OC ( 1GHz) of the Gigabyte SOC ??

or 1GHz is like the limit ??

Im wondering because this card or the Gigabyte will be my next card
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post #48 of 90
Ours will be 950MHz... but review sites can easily hit 1GHz with most cards if they know what they are doing.

There is A LOT of headroom on this GPU.
    
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post #49 of 90
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Ours will be 950MHz... but review sites can easily hit 1GHz with most cards if they know what they are doing.

There is A LOT of headroom on this GPU.
It's reference clocks are 822Mhz IIRC, the 460 were 675Mhz weren't they?
I think the highest stable clocks so far have been with the TwinFrozr II, at 1026Mhz or something.
Obviously I do think it's awesome that we're finally getting passed the magic 1Ghz mark with nVidia chips.

I also don't really see many passing 1050Mhz at a push, Gigabyte have launched a pre-OC'd 1Ghz card, I imagine the HAWK will be around that mark aswell?

Are you able to let slip if the HAWK will also have the TwinFrozr II cooler? Or is anything new in the making? (I only ask this as every card will seemingly have the TwinFrozr II, something alone that was reason to make a card more premium than other models prior)
Or will it be much like the 460 HAWK with the voltage features? (assuming voltage will help push the OC's and stabilize higher than 1050Mhz?) Or something new to throw at us?

I've had my heart set on the Talon Attack for a long while now, but unfortunately my financial situation aint helped get that as yet.
The base model TwinFrozr II 560 is the cheapest here at the moment at just over £200, can we hope for any price drops and by the time the HAWK is released a similar pricetag to the current, or will it be around £250?
 
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Card is up at newegg, but no specification of clock

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127565
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