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THat Asus board is a micro ATX board, and since it has integrated graphics, they decided not to add an AGP slot. Seems weird not to, when it's such a good chipset and dual channel DDR, even for an ATX board, but they decided to only put PCI slots in there. I was looking at the Asus site with Opera, and this browser can't render the page properly (no photo); I then used IE8 and there it was.. in all it's no AGP glory.

80 bucks for 2x1GB of DDR ? Yikes! Thanks, but I'll just search for a single 1GB stick like you. The cheaper, the better. Still have the case, the GPU, and the PSU to buy.
It is indeed cheaper, but the performance is crappier as well. Standard DDR400 RAM performs at timings of 3/4/4/8-ish. A set of 2/2/2/5 RAM would blow those away. It's a great deal,especially since it's 60 percent off normal price. If I hadn't bought the CPU, I would most likely have picked up those, cause normally they're at gallatin price levels >.>
     
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Hooray!

Just got a deal on a Graphics Card! I won an auction for a Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB, with a Zalman aftermarket GPU cooler.

Sure, it's not the best card out there, but taking in mind it will be paired with a single core CPU, Windows XP, and no more than 1024x768 for the most part, even the 256MB fame buffer is enough.

The best thing is I got it for € 24 ($33), shipping included!

This is starting to look good
 
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^^Wow. You guys are really serious about this.

BTW how about checking my config of my Desktop & HTPC (in the Sig)

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Intel D865GBF Memory
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Sony Bravia 19" inch
Edited by harishgayatri - 3/1/11 at 8:06am
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i own a Socket 478 P4 2.8GHZ 800FSB 1M
    
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^^Wow. You guys are really serious about this.

BTW how about checking my config of my Desktop & HTPC (in the Sig)

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Intel Pentium 4 3Ghz Motherboard
Intel D865GBF Memory
1.3GB DDR 400Mhz Graphics Card
Sapphire HD3650 AGP 8x
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40GB Maxtor, 1TB Hitachi Sound Card
SoundMAX AD1985 Power Supply
Rocketfish RF-900WPS Case
Lancool K-62 Dragonlord
CPU cooling
Scythe Katana III(undecided) OS
Windows Vista Home Premium x86 Monitor
Sony Bravia 19" inch

Those look good, but there is some improvement you could make.

The first one is the HDD's. I suppose both 40Gb's HDD's you have in both PC's are still the boot disks. That will slow down the general performance of the PC. If you move the OS to the bigger HDD, it will improve performance. Not to mention noise. I've got a 40GB Maxtor and it is noisy, especially if you have it working in an HTPC.

The second is the AGP card. Probably not much of a bottleneck with a 3Ghz P4, but if you later buy a 3.4, you could get yourself either the X1950Pro, the 2600XT, the HD3850 or the HD4650.

The Scythe Katana III is a good cooler for a very good price. It has a very clever mounting system that works on Skt 478, 775, 1156, 1366, AMD 754,939, 940, AM2, AM2+, AM3. And it's very simple to exchange the mounting system. Very clever and simple solution. And the heat-pipe arrangement is also very clever. The fan can also be easily replaced with another one, since it's an 80mm case fan.

As to Windows Vista, probaly not the best OS to have with a P4. If you want to try games that need DX10, you will need one of the faster HD3850 or HD4650 anyway, and either way you're better off with Windows 7.

If you don't need or want to play DX10 only games (and they probably wouldn't give much performance given the single core CPU), I'd suggest you install Windows XP, at least for the machine you intend to do some gaming with.

The HTPC could stay with Windows Vista because it's got the very useful Media Center.

The Lancool K-62 Dragonlord looks very nice!
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/1/11 at 8:41am
 
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I got another 1GB RAM stick today. Identical to the other one, of course. They guy who sold it to me said I could return it if there were any problems, so now I'm at a dilemma.

My mobo ties the CPU bus to RAM. Until now, I had a stable OC to 3ghz (231MHz bus). This stick, however, caps it to ~220MHz...
I found a workaround, though, and it's pretty sweet now. Did a couple of memtest86 passes and am currently running prime95. No errors so far (~2 hours. Good enough for me). The interesting part is this: I raised the CPU bus to 250MHz (WAAAY more than my previous OC), but dropped the RAM frequency to DDR333. The bus OC raises the ram back to the 400MHz mark, but it's now stable at DDR333 timings! 2,5/4/4/7
(EDIT: 333 timings are actually 2,5/3/3/7, gonna try them out in a bit)
My only worry is that the FSB : DRAM ratio is now 5:4
I wonder whether the increased CPU clock is actually being fully utilized and whether the lower RAM timings offset the decrease in frequency... Heck, since the CPU temp caps at 53C,I'm going to try raising the bus even further, but still, the doubt remains.
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I got another 1GB RAM stick today. Identical to the other one, of course. They guy who sold it to me said I could return it if there were any problems, so now I'm at a dilemma.

My mobo ties the CPU bus to RAM. Until now, I had a stable OC to 3ghz (231MHz bus). This stick, however, caps it to ~220MHz...
I found a workaround, though, and it's pretty sweet now. Did a couple of memtest86 passes and am currently running prime95. No errors so far (~2 hours. Good enough for me). The interesting part is this: I raised the CPU bus to 250MHz (WAAAY more than my previous OC), but dropped the RAM frequency to DDR333. The bus OC raises the ram back to the 400MHz mark, but it's now stable at DDR333 timings! 2,5/4/4/7
(EDIT: 333 timings are actually 2,5/3/3/7, gonna try them out in a bit)
My only worry is that the FSB : DRAM ratio is now 5:4
I wonder whether the increased CPU clock is actually being fully utilized and whether the lower RAM timings offset the decrease in frequency... Heck, since the CPU temp caps at 53C,I'm going to try raising the bus even further, but still, the doubt remains.

Hmmm, I think you should wait until the P4 3.4 arrives; that might change your math, so, what is valid now may not be afterwards.
 
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Hmmm, I think you should wait until the P4 3.4 arrives; that might change your math, so, what is valid now may not be afterwards.
Ah, but I have only 1 day to return the stick >.> Oh well. I guess expecting decent OC figures from a very basic mobo and regular ram is a tad naiive. Building a s478 warhorse ain't as cheap and easy as one would imagine, hehe ^^
     
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For those of you not updated on the news.. the Crysis 2 Demo is out. And it's only DX9. News are that the final game will only come with DX9 and a DX11 patch later.

But this is the news I want to point out- this guy over here at OCN got the demo working on a single core Athlon 3200+ (2.2 Ghz, OC to 2.6 Ghz).

http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/95...ngle-core.html

He does have a GTX460 though (and he needs a better CPU, definitely, if he has such a good card)


But hey, if he can do it, so can we, right ?
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Woah... Nice! Our 3,4 northwoods should be more than up to the challenge then. The graphics cards, however, are a completely different matter
     
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