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Yoo-hoo. Anybody home?
tpi, any updates on your 3,4 northwood?

In other news, just finished fiddling with my old beat-up case. Almost ended up ruining it, but looks like it can hold itself even with the front part of the carcass gone Still, improving the case fan's airflow and doing some cable management lowered my temps from 34C/54C to 33C/51C (idle/load). I'm pretty surprised I've managed to achieve such numbers, 'cause my case is utter crap and I'm running on stock cooling. Or perhaps this is normal? On that note, could you folks post your temps? It should prove to be quite interesting and informative - after all, collecting info on these ancient CPUs is one of this thread's aims

Still nothing has arrived...

I hope something still arrives this week.

I have the following to arrive:

- P4 Northwood 3.4 Ghz
- X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3
- 1GB DDR 400
- Sound Blaster Audigy 4


As to the temps, I have the following:

CPU

- idle: 29.º C (with the Scythe Katana 3) - in CPUID Hardware Monitor this shows up as CPUTIN

there are also these other temperatures:
-systin: 21.º C
-VTIN: 47.º


Bear in mind that I have no side vents at all on the current case as it is from 2001

The GPU (Gigabyte GeForce 7600GS, passive heatsink) idles at 42.º C

HDD: 22.º C



Load:

CPU:

- Medium load while playing a 720p flash video in VLC Media PLayer : 33.º C
- Load while playing Crysis (Demo): 39.º

SYSTIN: 23.º
VTIN: 48.º

GPU: 64.º C

HDD: 26.º


EDIT: here is a screenshot, which should make it clear. I left it running during Crysis, so you can see the before, the "during", and the after.




As to your system, your temperatures seem normal, especially considering you are running an overclocked CPU, but regarding your case, why don't you buy a new case ? Nowadays there are cheap and good cases out there.

I will buy a new one once I get the components.
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/10/11 at 3:49pm
 
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post #182 of 761
More like, your temps are crazy! Cooling sure as hell doesn't pose any problems to you
Yeah, I'm thinking about a case, but I'd probably get a used one... Or heck, run caseless for a while? The only thing stopping me is my cat. No idea how the little bugger would behave. "I CAN HAZ FRIED MOBO KKTHXBAI" <- that's what I fear
Still, I can't wait to get my CPU. With its arrival, I'll get some sandpaper and attempt to lap my current one. Should be fun
     
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More like, your temps are crazy! Cooling sure as hell doesn't pose any problems to you
Yeah, I'm thinking about a case, but I'd probably get a used one... Or heck, run caseless for a while? The only thing stopping me is my cat. No idea how the little bugger would behave. "I CAN HAZ FRIED MOBO KKTHXBAI" <- that's what I fear
Still, I can't wait to get my CPU. With its arrival, I'll get some sandpaper and attempt to lap my current one. Should be fun

Lol, having a cat and a caseless computer is asking for BIG trouble! You do well to fear that scenario. Please don't. For the sake of your cat and of your investment in the parts you bought.

Yes, my temperatures are good And the Scythe Katana 3 is responsible for that. With the previous Thermaltake the CPU would idle at 36.º C and load at 46.º

The GPU temperatures have to do with the case slot cover below it being removed. It helps the airflow pass through the heatsink immensely. You can see a 20.º C drop in idle temperatures (I'm not kidding).

And now for the case. Did I already say it's a small case ?




Note it still has the Fan control bracket from the Thermaltake in there that I still didn't remove, and a second Sata Cable not doing anything (it's to clone to the 320GB HDD).


As to the case, I have changed my mind, I am no longer going to buy the Nox Zen because it has the traditional PSU mounting at the top of the case, and since the Skt 478 + Scythe Katana does not allow air to be expelled towards the back of the case into the rear exhaust fan, it will either face down (makes no sense) or up (like it is now), which puts a burden on the PSU as a lot of hot air is going through it. So, I'm going to buy the Nox Evo, which is slightly more expensive but is much, much better, even comes with tool-less assembly.
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Too late Went caseless (at least for the time being). I gambled on my cat being pretty damn smart and it seems I won the bet. Even when I put him near the rig on purpose, the fur ball pays no heed. What I find peculiar is that the temps remain pretty much the same. Idle went down 1C while load went up 1 Anyway, pics.
Before/After:


Edited by Hyoketsu - 3/11/11 at 10:14am
     
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Very nice tools layout hehehe

Where is your motherboard on top of ?

As to the temps, it's really because a good case airflow can really improve heat dissipation. That is why you are not seeing much improvement. And it also depends on your ambient temperature.

Hey, news!

The 1GB RAM arrived!

This means tomorrow I'll buy the new case, and a new PSU for my main rig, putting the HX450 in the P4 system, and install the components in the new case.

I will also start benchmarking with Crysis and Crysis Warhead as the components arrive to see the performance difference.

I'll start with the system as it is, then with 2GB of RAM

I'm also curious to see if Crysis 2 Demo is finally playable. I can sort of move around slowly now, at 800x600; at 1024x768 the game crashes, so it is at least lacking main system ram - the minimum specs do say 2GB as the minimum.

And later let's see if it really needs 512MB of vRAM. The minimum specs say so, let's see if it's really true for lower resolutions.
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Lol, the first pic was actually from yesterday, before I ripped my case apart. That's why there are tools such as pliers and a hammer lying besides it
The mobo is on top of the lid of a shoe box which is on that anti-slip rubberish carpet thingy you can find in bathrooms, which, in turn, is on my wooden table. Some cables are in the empty space underneath the box lid, such as sata and the power/reset cables. Lol, I even ripped the power button out of the case and put it on the side of the box lid for easy switching

Edit: Tried running Crysis. Whaddya know - it runs surprisingly well on a machine as ancient as mine. Though I only played a few minutes of the first map, at low settings and 800*600, everything seems fluid. 1024*768 is quite playable too, though there is a noticeable decrease in responsiveness.
I also tried running the benchmarks.
CPU1 - avg. ~29FPS
CPU2 - avg. ~17FPS
GPU - avg. ~29FPS

Gotta try out Crysis 2 next...
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pentium 4 530 + p5gc mx 1333 + gts 450 950mhz/2ghz/4ghz

     
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pentium 4 530 + p5gc mx 1333 + gts 450 950mhz/2ghz/4ghz

Mr. Bottle, meet Mr. Neck
     
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i found a cheat 256mb xfx 8800gt alpha dog

50€
buy or no

and

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560 - 32-bit, 3,6GHz, 1MB cache
650 - 64-bit, 3,4GHz, 2MB cache

After searching a bit, I'd say 650 would be the way to go. It should overclock fine too. There's a topic or two about this choice in OCN as well, look for them.

I'll refrain from commenting about the card as I'm not that particularly well-read on nVidia's GPUs of that time.
     
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