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Oppps sorry. You're right but it's actually It's pc4300, DDR533, It's DDR1. It's khx4300k21g. Like I said, When I post that, I am pulling off the top of my head and how much I paid for it. Ima put it all together and I'll see what bench we're gonna get. As far as the core, I think it's Northwood. Ima double check. As for the ram, I bought the PC4300 instead of PC3200 to give me a little play on OCing. Coz we all know that the higher FSB, The higher the ram frequency.
I must say you have got some very rare RAM nowadays! That is probably as fast as DDR2 667!

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This is my 1st Rig I can brag about. It's my Favorite RIg of all time! BTW, Here's the GPU. I'm Excited to bring her to life again. Thank god there's people here that still appreciate where it all started.

OMG! Is that my feet? LOL

That GPU must be quite rare too! Crysis requires a 6800GT as the minimum to run (although I ran it at minimum with a 7600GS, which is worse - the 7600GT is comparable to a 6800GS), so yours should perform quite interestingly in Crysis!

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Oooh, it's shaping up to be quite a week. You're rebuilding your old rig, tpi2007's assembling and testing his new hardware and I'm expecting a new CPU. This is going to be epic fun
Assembled! And tested!

Right now I'm exhausted, so I'll just post some teaser photos for now Tomorrow I'll post all the benchmarks and corresponding pictures!



Since the motherboard's BIOS does not control the fan speed, I replaced Scythe's stock cooler - which ran at 2700rpm maxed out, producing a loud 31.07 dBA, with this beautiful and quiet Noise Blocker XE2, which runs at 1800-1900 rpm and produces only 21 dBA.



Powering this beautiful system is my Corsair CX400w. Runs like a charm.

Right now the Graphics Card is running with the fan maxed out (25 dBA - a little loud), since the fan is connected to the motherboard's fan connector). I will probably buy a fan control bracket later.


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What CPU are you getting? Man, I should have met you earlier. Microcenter is selling them 478's P4. I think up to 3.8Ghz for less than 10 bucks. I should have got you one and ship it to you.

CPU's that were tested stable at 3.8 Ghz you mean ? The P4 Socket 478 maxed out at 3.4 - both Northwood and Prescott - and Gallatin (Extreme Edition). But a 3.8 Ghz socket 775 Prescott (actually the name is Cedar Mill, if I'm not mistaken) is quite a CPU to have. I'd buy one for my collection
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*drools*
Damn, I need a stable source of income ASAP. Nothing like blowing your hard-earned cash on some new hardware

Ehh, 1:30AM, gonna hit the sack. I have high hopes for tomorrow, since my parcels tend to arrive on Mondays more often than not. I'm keeping my fingers crossed~
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That GPU must be quite rare too! Crysis requires a 6800GT as the minimum to run (although I ran it at minimum with a 7600GS, which is worse - the 7600GT is comparable to a 6800GS), so yours should perform quite interestingly in Crysis!
Actually, There's a Demo of Crysis With the package when I bought it. I guess It's made for it.




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CPU's that were tested stable at 3.8 Ghz you mean ? The P4 Socket 478 maxed out at 3.4 - both Northwood and Prescott - and Gallatin (Extreme Edition). But a 3.8 Ghz socket 775 Prescott (actually the name is Cedar Mill, if I'm not mistaken) is quite a CPU to have. I'd buy one for my collection
My CPU is already 3.2Ghz. So 600Mhz increase is less than 20%. The Asus Board comes with the software that will OC the CPU 10%. So thats 3.5 Ghz Already, Just Using the software. Like I said, I didn't really use the RIG. But we will find out soon. If I can remember it right, When OC'ing Failed, You just have to press and hold "insert" on reboot to set it back to default on the Asus board or most boards.
I was too scared to Push it back then because of the money I spent. I think now, Sky is the limit. LOL
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HELL YEAH! The CPU arrived! The courier even brought it to my door Gonna set it up now, more updates incoming~

EDIT: so far so good... is what I'd like to say, however...
Like tpi's, it arrived packed in mini tupperware (Though I took some pics, they were of terribad quality, so I won't be posting any of them :/)
Well, there are no physical defects - no bent pins, no scratches, even the IHS looks nice.
Operation CPU switch - start!
As expected, the heatsink had sucked onto the old CPU and didn't want to let go, so I tried wobbling it while applying minimum upwards force. Of course, I failed miserably and ended up ripping the CPU from the socket along with the heatsink Fortunately, no damage was sustained. Used a hairdryer to heat 'em up and finally managed to separate 'em.
Moving on.
Made a half-assed attempt to lap the heatsink even though I didn't even have the appropriate sandpaper for the job. Still, the result felt a tad smoother than before.
Removed the Northbridge heatsink, cleaned off the old thermal compound and applied AS5.
Reassembled everything.
Eureka! It boots!
Tested it out on stock. The performance increase in benchmarks wasn't that much - after all, I had the old CPU clocked at 3,25GHz, only 150MHz less than this one at stock. My mind, however, is still blown from seeing the temps. Friggin' 40C @idle, 61C @load ON STOCK! My ambient temp has risen during these past few days, so the old CPU was heating up a bit more too - ~54C-ish @load - but it was running with a 25% overclock!
Next came the overclocking part and that's where things really started going up sh** creek. Since my RAM caps at 220MHz @ddr400 mode, I instantly went for that. The PC posted, went to load... And just as I was expecting the welcome screen - BAM - reset.
"What the..?"
Second attempt. Same result.
Tried running the ram at ddr333 with various timings. Same result. Ruled RAM out. Tried disabling HT, thermal throttling - still no go.
Tried 215MHz bus. Same result. Tried turning off HT. Once it went so far as to show me the mouse cursor in a black screen. Then it reset
Tried 212MHz. Booted up nicely. Started running IBT while browsing OCN. After opening a few other tasks, BAM! Reset
Lowered to 210MHz, still running on it. Tried IBT again (max stress). After I launched a few more processes, the PC reset again... Will attempt IBT once but without doing anything else this time.

Even if this passes, though, a 170MHz overclock is simply too pathetic, not to mention the temps are ridiculously high.
How high can you go, tpi? If your chip overclocks fine, I'll probably sell mine and try getting a new one.
Or rather, a 3,2GHz northwood >.>
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HELL YEAH! The CPU arrived! The courier even brought it to my door Gonna set it up now, more updates incoming~

EDIT: so far so good... is what I'd like to say, however...
Like tpi's, it arrived packed in mini tupperware (Though I took some pics, they were of terribad quality, so I won't be posting any of them :/)
Well, there are no physical defects - no bent pins, no scratches, even the IHS looks nice.
Operation CPU switch - start!
As expected, the heatsink had sucked onto the old CPU and didn't want to let go, so I tried wobbling it while applying minimum upwards force. Of course, I failed miserably and ended up ripping the CPU from the socket along with the heatsink Fortunately, no damage was sustained. Used a hairdryer to heat 'em up and finally managed to separate 'em.
Moving on.
Made a half-assed attempt to lap the heatsink even though I didn't even have the appropriate sandpaper for the job. Still, the result felt a tad smoother than before.
Removed the Northbridge heatsink, cleaned off the old thermal compound and applied AS5.
Reassembled everything.
Eureka! It boots!
Tested it out on stock. The performance increase in benchmarks wasn't that much - after all, I had the old CPU clocked at 3,25GHz, only 150MHz less than this one at stock. My mind, however, is still blown from seeing the temps. Friggin' 40C @idle, 61C @load ON STOCK! My ambient temp has risen during these past few days, so the old CPU was heating up a bit more too - ~54C-ish @load - but it was running with a 25% overclock!
Next came the overclocking part and that's where things really started going up sh** creek. Since my RAM caps at 220MHz @ddr400 mode, I instantly went for that. The PC posted, went to load... And just as I was expecting the welcome screen - BAM - reset.
"What the..?"
Second attempt. Same result.
Tried running the ram at ddr333 with various timings. Same result. Ruled RAM out. Tried disabling HT, thermal throttling - still no go.
Tried 215MHz bus. Same result. Tried turning off HT. Once it went so far as to show me the mouse cursor in a black screen. Then it reset
Tried 212MHz. Booted up nicely. Started running IBT while browsing OCN. After opening a few other tasks, BAM! Reset
Lowered to 210MHz, still running on it. Tried IBT again (max stress). After I launched a few more processes, the PC reset again... Will attempt IBT once but without doing anything else this time.

Even if this passes, though, a 170MHz overclock is simply too pathetic, not to mention the temps are ridiculously high.
How high can you go, tpi? If your chip overclocks fine, I'll probably sell mine and try getting a new one.
Or rather, a 3,2GHz northwood >.>
What is your CPU cooler? And Can you refresh my memory, What are max volts I can use if I OC my P4, Like RAM, CPU, and anything I forgot. I forgot what volts they have. LOL.
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my friend gave me a fujitsu scaleo p computer yesterday to fix and its got a celeron 3.06 lga775 cpu in it and i am wondering if somethings wrong with it,its so slow and sluggish that defragging it uses 100% cpu time!
maybe im missing something here because the case says celeron D on it but in process manager it looks like one core one thread?
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my friend gave me a fujitsu scaleo p computer yesterday to fix and its got a celeron 3.06 lga775 cpu in it and i am wondering if somethings wrong with it,its so slow and sluggish that defragging it uses 100% cpu time!
maybe im missing something here because the case says celeron D on it but in process manager it looks like one core one thread?
maybe he never defrag or scan
check hdd free space

the avg somes times is slower than my norton.
i did some test
     
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my friend gave me a fujitsu scaleo p computer yesterday to fix and its got a celeron 3.06 lga775 cpu in it and i am wondering if somethings wrong with it,its so slow and sluggish that defragging it uses 100% cpu time!
maybe im missing something here because the case says celeron D on it but in process manager it looks like one core one thread?
Yes, that is normal, those Celeron D's are not to be confused with the Pentium D's, which are Dual Core.

The Celerons back then were all single core.

Those Celerons' performance is very compromised because of 4 times less L2 cache - 256kb versus 1MB for the Pentium 4 Prescott.

Try getting Avast installed instead of AVG.

As to the performance, I wouldn't expect more out of it. If you can install something better, like a proper Pentium 4, you will notice the difference.
 
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initially the 120gb drive had maybe 5gb free,but i wiped it and the fresh install+updates took 8 hours lol
i just put avg on to get the updates and not catch viruses while it was doing its thing,usually i use nod32 because it has a tiny footprint and seems pretty reliable over the last 7 years or so.
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HELL YEAH! The CPU arrived! The courier even brought it to my door Gonna set it up now, more updates incoming~

EDIT: so far so good... is what I'd like to say, however...
Like tpi's, it arrived packed in mini tupperware (Though I took some pics, they were of terribad quality, so I won't be posting any of them :/)
Well, there are no physical defects - no bent pins, no scratches, even the IHS looks nice.
Operation CPU switch - start!
As expected, the heatsink had sucked onto the old CPU and didn't want to let go, so I tried wobbling it while applying minimum upwards force. Of course, I failed miserably and ended up ripping the CPU from the socket along with the heatsink Fortunately, no damage was sustained. Used a hairdryer to heat 'em up and finally managed to separate 'em.
Moving on.
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Removed the Northbridge heatsink, cleaned off the old thermal compound and applied AS5.
Reassembled everything.
Eureka! It boots!
Tested it out on stock. The performance increase in benchmarks wasn't that much - after all, I had the old CPU clocked at 3,25GHz, only 150MHz less than this one at stock. My mind, however, is still blown from seeing the temps. Friggin' 40C @idle, 61C @load ON STOCK! My ambient temp has risen during these past few days, so the old CPU was heating up a bit more too - ~54C-ish @load - but it was running with a 25% overclock!
Next came the overclocking part and that's where things really started going up sh** creek. Since my RAM caps at 220MHz @ddr400 mode, I instantly went for that. The PC posted, went to load... And just as I was expecting the welcome screen - BAM - reset.
"What the..?"
Second attempt. Same result.
Tried running the ram at ddr333 with various timings. Same result. Ruled RAM out. Tried disabling HT, thermal throttling - still no go.
Tried 215MHz bus. Same result. Tried turning off HT. Once it went so far as to show me the mouse cursor in a black screen. Then it reset
Tried 212MHz. Booted up nicely. Started running IBT while browsing OCN. After opening a few other tasks, BAM! Reset
Lowered to 210MHz, still running on it. Tried IBT again (max stress). After I launched a few more processes, the PC reset again... Will attempt IBT once but without doing anything else this time.

Even if this passes, though, a 170MHz overclock is simply too pathetic, not to mention the temps are ridiculously high.
How high can you go, tpi? If your chip overclocks fine, I'll probably sell mine and try getting a new one.
Or rather, a 3,2GHz northwood >.>

I made the same mistake when removing the Heatsink the first time after all these years. The thermal paste needs to be heated, either by putting the computer working before, or by using a hairdryer. Then it won't come with the CPU attached.

Anyway, your temps are a bit high, but I wouldn't be surprised. Can you post a picture of your stock cooler ? Does it have a copper core ?

In any case, those coolers had very small fans and the heat dissipation was not optimal.

I haven't overclocked mine, but after running Prime95 after 15-20 minutes it maxes out at 42.º Celsius. Yes, it is amazing!

It idles at 32.º / 33.º or 37.º while browsing the web with 40 tabs open.

I still haven't overclocked it and I don't know if I will. The returns are not going to be that great. I read a review yesterday of a Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.2Ghz, and the reviewers only got it stable at 3.6Ghz - and this was not done by increasing the FSB but by increasing the unlocked multiplier.

There is another thing you might want to consider which is the fact that some motherboards really don't support anything that has more than an 95w TDP.

Considering the P4 at 3.4Ghz already has an 89w TDP, you might be pushing your motherboard.
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/21/11 at 7:02am
 
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