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Yeah Celeron M's are not bad at all...I recently tested a 1.5GHz one and it played 720p videos no problem at all, at around 90% usage
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i have a pentium d 965 extreme edition (es). i had this forever, i used my qx9650 til it died then had to kick it old skool. its oced to 4500mhz.

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Originally Posted by insomniac42 View Post
i have a pentium d 965 extreme edition (es). i had this forever, i used my qx9650 til it died then had to kick it old skool. its oced to 4500mhz.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1735891
Hahaha, I never thought they existed.. Must be rare.
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That is indeed strange. I didn't think Pentium 4 boards without that connection were around. My ASRock, which is even more budget than yours appears to be (though ASRock by nature is budget all around), an ASRock P4i65G, even has that 4 pin +12V connector for the CPU.

In any case, if the motherboard lacks it, the PSU is still fine. It doesn't have to be plugged in if the motherboard doesn't need it.

However, that raises to concern the previous PSU you were running though. If it didn't have that connector, it was likely an ATX 1.x design, and ATX before v2.x didn't prioritize the +12V rail, of which modern PCs (Pentium 4 and later) did more and more. SO, I'd say it's good you're not running it off of whatever you were before. Even many PSUs with that 4 pin connector are literally just ATX 1.3v PSUs with the connector added on, and not true ATX 2.x PSUs, so if yours lacked it entirely, I don't even want to think about it.
As tpi said, yours is a bit better than mine, the chipset being 865 and all
My old PSU DID have the 4-pin connector and, if I recall correctly, the label indeed indicated that it was ATX 2.0. However, it was a 6-year-old 300W single-rail codegen with, iirc, 16A on the 12V rail When the PC started choking under load due to, most likely, inadequate power, I finally realized that it was high time I replaced the old grandpa


But maaaan, getting an 875P board these days... 865 was quite common and I STILL have problems finding any on my country's craigslist-like sites. I'd REALLY like to avoid ebay, cause the shipping costs are ridiculous >.>

EDIT: I tried measuring my vCore with a multimeter. Since I didn't know any actual measuring points on the top side of the mobo, I took a gamble and... that's right, measured the voltage on the CPU pins on the back side
Since I'm running caseless, the pins were comparatively easy to reach, but wires still got in the way, so I had to work while manually supporting the mobo Good thing there was a conveniently placed plastic thingy under which I could place my thumb Still, it was pretty nerve-wracking, since (correct me if I'm wrong) had I bridged even 2 of the pins, the whole thing could have gone bonkers. You can see what I mean by looking at the pic, that's what the operation conditions looked like Oh, and ground was plugged into a molex.
So, anyway, I got readings on various pins and other spots and after filtering out the BS, things look like this:
vCore - idle: 1,63-64V
vCore - load (IBT, maximum stress): 1,60-61V

Thus I lol at the software readings. HWmonitor readings jump all over the place - anywhere from 1,55 to 1,65 while idle, 1,48-1,62 under load.

Don't mind the inaccuracy, though: Intel ARK lists the "VID Voltage Range" for this CPU at 1.25V-1.4V...
All I can say scream is WOWWTH!!!

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EDIT: I tried measuring my vCore with a multimeter. Since I didn't know any actual measuring points on the top side of the mobo, I took a gamble and... that's right, measured the voltage on the CPU pins on the back side
Since I'm running caseless, the pins were comparatively easy to reach, but wires still got in the way, so I had to work while manually supporting the mobo Good thing there was a conveniently placed plastic thingy under which I could place my thumb Still, it was pretty nerve-wracking, since (correct me if I'm wrong) had I bridged even 2 of the pins, the whole thing could have gone bonkers. You can see what I mean by looking at the pic, that's what the operation conditions looked like Oh, and ground was plugged into a molex.
So, anyway, I got readings on various pins and other spots and after filtering out the BS, things look like this:
vCore - idle: 1,63-64V
vCore - load (IBT, maximum stress): 1,60-61V

Thus I lol at the software readings. HWmonitor readings jump all over the place - anywhere from 1,55 to 1,65 while idle, 1,48-1,62 under load.

Don't mind the inaccuracy, though: Intel ARK lists the "VID Voltage Range" for this CPU at 1.25V-1.4V...
All I can say scream is WOWWTH!!!


You are absolutely MAD! LOL, but at the same time brilliant people are often called mad

How did you figure out which pins were the correct ones ? It was all trial and error like you say you ended up having to go through a lot of garbage numbers or did you read something about the pins on the 478 socket ?

I would have never dreamt of doing that, but kudos to you for trying, and succeding !
 
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i have
Pentium 4 1.6ghz Willamette sitting on my desk i stole this cpu from the computer lab of my highschool to power an imb motherboard that now days is the download machine

Pentium 4 2.0ghz Northwood working on my "download machine" only running download apps like utorrent and jdownloader

Pentium 4 2.4ghz Northwood sitting on my desk

Pentium 4 2.6ghz Northwood replace a p4 mobile on my sister's sony vaio laptop

celeron 1.7 ghz Willamette sitting on my desk

Pentium 4-M 1.8 see above

i have used alot of p4 an celeron/d but not of my own from p4 1.3ghz to pentium d a 3.4ghz
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You are absolutely MAD! LOL, but at the same time brilliant people are often called mad

How did you figure out which pins were the correct ones ? It was all trial and error like you say you ended up having to go through a lot of garbage numbers or did you read something about the pins on the 478 socket ?

I would have never dreamt of doing that, but kudos to you for trying, and succeding !
Well, I'm not actually that knowledgeable on what the exact pins do, so correct me if I assume BS. Many pins had a voltage reading of ~ 0,08-09v, so I'm guessing those were ground or w/e. Then there was one that measured ~0,01-02V higher than the readings I got from the other pins. I only encountered one such pin so I disregarded it. Then there was another pin that read ~1,67-68 when idle and ~1,66 under load. Again, only one pin, so I disregarded it as well. I also measured some of the little metal rectangles that were surrounded by the pins. They were at either ~0,08-09v or the readings that I deemed accurate earlier.
I only measured some of the innermost and outermost pins and the center rectangles, 'cause attempting to measure any of the pins that were surrounded would have been akin to a suicide attempt under such conditions
I didn't actually read anything prior to doing this, I only logically assumed that the most accurate vcore readings would come from the pins themselves. If anyone knows better, please correct me, cause all that was only based on an assumption.
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Yesterday I took out the heatsink and found a huge amount of white thermal paste (probably silicone based) all over the heatsink base and the GPU. It was easy to remove from the heatsink, but a nightmare to remove from the GPU - not the die itself, but from the surroundings as the chip has some caps on the top of the GPU and the thermal paste does not come off uniformly.




Anyway, I cleaned it the best I could and applied a thin layer of Arctic Cooling MX-2 thermal paste.

But then I found that on the underside of the card there was some thermal paste on top of 4 resistors. I don't know if that was affecting anything, especially because I couldn't tell if the thermal paste had any conductive properties. It was grey thermal paste, like many others. If it was AC5 it was conductive, if anything else, I don't know. Anyway, I had to go to great lengths to clean it off because the resistors were very small and the gaps were narrow.

Anyway, I succeeded with that, put the heatsink back on, put the card inside the computer and turned it on. Perfect! So perfect I played Crysis for 2 hours without any problems. Well, actually the game crashed with a Crysis.exe error message, but I had done quite a few Atl+Tab to the desktop to do other things, so it could have something to do with that. And that happened with my main rig too, so no worries there. I'm now typing this on the P4 system
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That's a fancy heatsink for the Pentium 4. I bet it keeps it cool.

Mine just has this (which by the way, I should have posted in my first post). It's a Thermaltake TR M12. It does a good enough job keeping it cool, but is slightly louder than I'd like. The GPU fan is louder though anyway.



Sorry for the bad quality. I seem to be getting worse with the camera.

I'm like to switch to SATA for the hard and optical drives (the optical drive isn't hooked up as you may notice, it doesn't read discs anyway), add another hard drive on that note, maybe get a slightly better video card, and get a full size ATX motherboard and maybe swap to another PSU. In essence, that's alot of swapping around for little gain, so it works for now though.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 3/28/11 at 3:44pm
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LOL, feels just a little odd for me to post this now as I've just upgraded, though currently still using while i tweak new rig for stability.

so I'm running a Pentium 4@2.53ghz (socket 478), no overclock. Recently installed cpu-z and shows 1.5v. It on my trusty Asus P4B533 MB
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