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Hey Folks,

I would like to improve the performance of my Desktop by safely overclocking - since, like most of us now, funds are in short supply.

I have trawled Google but, sadly, am left somewhat overwhelmed. Any advice from you experts that can be followed by a computer illiterate would be most welcome.

The PC:

Processor entium 4 531 3GHz (Prescott Socket 775 LGA)
RAM :2.5GHz DDR2 RAM 333.3 mhz (Trancend)
Vidio Card :NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Mother Bd :Lake Port Intel i945P/PL/G/GZ Rev A2
Bios hoenix Technologies 6.00 PG 07/28/2005
Hard Drive :Western Digital 500GB SATA/600 7200RPM 16MB

Thank you.

highlanderec

I would go somewhere in the same direction as Princess, even tough you just said the PC is not an OEM - however it seems to be an Intel branded motherboard instead of an Asus, Gigabyte,etc. Intel branded motherboards have gotten better at providing overclocking options to users in the last few years, but it wasn't always the case. Some Intel motherboards just have either very limited overclocking options or none whatsoever (I've got a Pentium 3 motherboard - Coppermine, at 1GHz, and the Bios has no overclocking options at all).

I don't know about your specific board, you'll have to look into the Bios and see for yourself. When the computer is booting you have to normally press "Delete" to enter the BIOS. Some motherboards assign a different key, but it is normally written in the Boot-up screen.

As to the RAM, is all of it running at 333 or is it at 533 ? There is no DDR2 ram at 333, that is DDR RAM. Besides the 945 Chipset does not support DDR RAM, so you must have read it wrong. Where did you get that number from ? If it was from CPU-Z check the SPD tab and see each individual RAM stick to get the speeds they are capable of running at.

Edit: forget about the paragraph above, as Hyoketsu pointed out, you probably have DDR2 667, which works at 2 x 333.3.


Do you have the motherboard manual so we can shed some light on what exact chipset you have and what is the motherboard model ? If not, open the case and look for references on the motherboard PCB, It's usually stated somewhere on the PCB what is the motherboard's full reference name.

Regardless of the exact model, you should be able to upgrade to a Pentium D, you can find those for cheap at ebay and it would give you a much needed speed boost. Some motherboards of that time even have support for Core 2 Duo, others don't, it all depends on the specific model and the time it came to market.

As to the 7600GT, it's a good card, but it won't get you anywhere nowadays. I speak for myself. If you read some of the previous threads, you'll see I had a 7600GS and couldn't really do much of anything with it.


If you want something that uses little power, can play games and play youtube videos in HD with hardware acceleration and give you the best performance possible, I suggest either the Radeon HD4650 or the HD4670. In terms of performance they will probably behave the same since your CPU will be the bottleneck (if it's a single core), so you might as well go for the HD4650.

If you opt for a Dual Core Pentium D or a Core 2 Duo - if your motherboard supports it, you might want to go to the HD4670, or, at most, a Radeon HD5670.

Other than those advices, I would only suggest getting 3GB of RAM, some games will thank you for that.
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/31/11 at 2:35pm
 
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As to the RAM, is all of it running at 333 or is it at 533 ? There is no DDR2 ram at 333, that is DDR RAM. Where did you get that number from ? If it was from CPU-Z check the SPD tab and see each individual RAM stick to get the speeds they are capable of running at.
I think he meant DDR2 667, after all, the base bus is half that number.
     
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ok heres my list:

LGA 775
Intel Pentium 4 531 @ 3.0GHz,
Intel Pentium 4 631 @ 3.0GHz
Intel Pentium 4 530 @ 2.8GHz

PGA 478
Intel Pentium 4 1.6GHz

Ill post pics later, my Intel Pentium 4 531 is in a rig at my cuzins house as i gave it to him, so i wont be getting shots of that, and my PGA 478 P4 is in a rig right now, and may be sold in a few months, but most unlikely. The other ones however are alive and well, =P
    
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I think he meant DDR2 667, after all, the base bus is half that number.
LOL, I didn't even think of that, you're probably right, he has DDR2 667!

That makes things even better. Now all he needs is grab a cheap Pentium D and a Radeon HD4670 and he'll be gaming
 
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I have a Pentium 4 3.20GHz Socket 478
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27501

Also do you guys have any idea on the best way to cool it down? I've changed the fan itself to a faster fan which runs at 3200 rpm. The temp in a warm day goes to 55C but since it is getting colder here, the temp is 46C.
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Is there any specific need to cool it down? 55C is (more than) good enough if that's the worst it gets in real use. If that's it's temperature at idle, then yeah, you want to cool it down some more.

There's this for $20 with free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106606

I have one. I can't recall exact temperatures for my 2.8GHz Northwood, but it works pretty well. It might not net you super low temperatures, but I don't think you'll find anything that fancy for socket 478. It's not the quietest, but it's not too loud either, and should definitely keep that cool enough.
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Thanks again to all who are helping with advice.

I have downloaded some software which I hope will provide the motherboard info that is clearly so vital - it is attached.

Regards to all

Highlanderec
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Spare rig is a 3.2GHz Pentium 4 HT with 1Mb Cache, heard they are rare.
Edit: it's a 775.
Edited by Socks keep you warm - 4/1/11 at 3:04am
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Thanks again to all who are helping with advice.

I have downloaded some software which I hope will provide the motherboard info that is clearly so vital - it is attached.

Regards to all

Highlanderec
I'm guessing the 7-28-2005 is referring to the date of your BIOS, and if so, upon checking Foxconn's site, there's been at least two more BIOS releases for your motherboard, one being right after, and another being two years later. I'm guessing that last one added support for some of the early Core 2 CPUs guessing on the year and "Update micro code" notes.

This is your motherboard and this is where you can download the BIOS.

http://www.foxconnsupport.com/downlo...rds=&sort=BIOS

This is the guide they provide on how to flash the BIOS.

http://www.foxconnsupport.com/faq.aspx?faqid=F000000066

That may be for naught though. Chances are, if the board doesn't expose overclocking now, it won't with the new BIOS either, so I wouldn't flash it and take the risk for nothing unless you had to and/or knew what you were doing (generally, it's safe enough, but there is risk and you shouldn't risk it unless you need to).

On the note of that latest BIOS notes, you might be better scouring eBay for a used Core 2 Duo E6600 or something. It looks as though you should be able to snag one for ~$40-$50 or less on eBay.
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Spare rig is a 3.2GHz Pentium 4 HT with 1Mb Cache, heard they are rare.
Not really. That's just a standard Prescott. Most LGA775 Pentium 4 CPUs are Prescott (or Cedar Mill, but that's just a die shrunk Prescott). On top of that, the late Prescott/Cedar Mill has 2MB L2 cache, so in honesty, it's just a standard fare version for LGA775. They overclock nicely with the right hardware though.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 4/1/11 at 3:15am
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