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Currently linux in servers is like 15-20% with unix around 25%. this is just rough figures I remember reading somewhere. It's said that when Linux takes over, yes they say it's a when at this point, that Linux will have a little over 40% of the market. I think BSD will have 5-10 and MS at a little over 50%. Since Linux and Unix and BSD share pretty much everything you still learn about 50% of the server world. Well, I should say Linux and BSD share everything from Unix.... Whatever, all three are about the same as far as day to day maintenance. =P
It really depends on the methodology used as you can't get hard numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Servers


Regardless, the point is that there are OSes other than Windows. If you want to work in the server world, you will need to be familiar with them.
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It really depends on the methodology used as you can't get hard numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_s...ystems#Servers


Regardless, the point is that there are OSes other than Windows. If you want to work in the server world, you will need to be familiar with them.
Right, I agree, but I was doing research a while back on this for a college paper. I ended up finding a rough ballpark figure (from various sources, some were pretty good) about it being 25%. This is increasing every year, apparently fast too. I'm just saying Unix/BSD still have some decent figures not to ignore.
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I have a greater understanding of computers now that I use Linux full time. I'm not saying you can't learn the same stuff using Windows, but Linux forces you to learn more.
    
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I have a greater understanding of computers now that I use Linux full time. I'm not saying you can't learn the same stuff using Windows, but Linux forces you to learn more.
Some of it you can't learn in windows. Windows won't let you interact with the startup process like Linux, or the various run levels. There's other examples, but I'm just giving one for now. =P
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Some of it you can't learn in windows. Windows won't let you interact with the startup process like Linux, or the various run levels. There's other examples, but I'm just giving one for now. =P
Very true. I guess that's the benefit of having a completely open system.
    
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Linux is the most common OS for servers. If you want to work on servers, you probably need some Linux experience.
I'd say other than this... there really isn't any real reason to learn. I gave it a go about 6 months ago with ubuntu. I can say that I'm probly a basic user. Certainly not advanced or anything. But during my time with Ubunutu, I simply ran into wall after wall after wall. Installing downloaded programs can be a real pain in the rump. Unlike with windows, where everything is some .exe that practically installs itself. It can be frustrating. And you'd better enjoy 1980's style command line usage. And don't ever expect to do any modern gaming. Or any real gaming. Sure there are some bad adaptations (like wine) but the performance sucks and you can't even enable AA.

But you know, if linux would just get away from the constant use of the command line, and the difficult to install downloadable stuff, I'd have no problem using them on a laptop or something.
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I am (or was) a Windows enthusiast but I also work with Linux (CentOS more specifically) all day for work as well some projects at home every so often.

I think it's probably good to know some of the internals of the both of them. I go on Slasdot every so often and the Linux crowd doesn't realize Windows isn't on top of DOS any more.

The point being there are only advantages to both knowing how to install Windows from a custom WinPE 2 bootable thumb drive as well as how to install and setup PxE boot using DNSMasqe. And if you learn enough shell commands from the both of them you'll be that much more prepared for writing scripts or at least being able to read and reason through what they do.

To more specifically answer the question about practical uses keep mind things like Apache are available for windows but all those config files are the same as they would be on Linux. There are a lot of things Linux and Windows can do but Linux can do them for free. A distrubed network file server system for instance (GlusterFS) or setting up a NAS/iSCSI (FreeNAS, others) are possible with Windows but free with Linux. Actually one project I'm working on right now will involve running my Windows server in a VM on a very slim version of Linux (probably Ubuntu/JEUS probably using VirtualBox). It's a lot easier to answer this from a "how do I set up X?" or "how do I solve problem Y?" kind of perspective. There's pretty always a free (as in no money) Linux way to do it.
 
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I'd say other than this... there really isn't any real reason to learn. I gave it a go about 6 months ago with ubuntu. I can say that I'm probly a basic user. Certainly not advanced or anything. But during my time with Ubunutu, I simply ran into wall after wall after wall. Installing downloaded programs can be a real pain in the rump. Unlike with windows, where everything is some .exe that practically installs itself. It can be frustrating. And you'd better enjoy 1980's style command line usage. And don't ever expect to do any modern gaming. Or any real gaming. Sure there are some bad adaptations (like wine) but the performance sucks and you can't even enable AA.

But you know, if linux would just get away from the constant use of the command line, and the difficult to install downloadable stuff, I'd have no problem using them on a laptop or something.
Good thing linux isn't for gaming. Programs on linux are pretty easy to install, you just have to know what you are doing.
Linux doesn't hold your hand and walk you through everything, you have to use your brain to use it.

Not calling you dumb, just isn't for everybody.
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Of course this is purely ignorant, but why learn Linux?
Is it something that could be possible for in a career for software development or hardware? Is it just for having fun learning another OS? Would it be beneficial for me to learn since I am aiming for a career in CCIE and CISSP certifications or anything Oracle database?

Please enlighten me as I have an interest in Linux.
A wise man once told me -- Knowledge is power

Not that many people know a thing or two about Linux outside of getting a program to install/run

In the work world as I've dealt with it, the more you know with things like Linux, the better your job security will be. You might get into a career in CCIE/CISSP or Oracle, but it doesn't mean you won't have to deal with other tasks related to other programs, especially Linux.

Linux is a great operating systems, especially for those interested in networking/servers
     
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Good thing linux isn't for gaming.
The common new user will often ask "Why learn?". Gaming is more than enough reason to answer the way I did. You can't only think of the enthusiastic learner. Everything that I wanted to install in Ubuntu, I did. I forced my way through and made it work. But therein lies the problem. I had to make it work. Linux has a long way to go before I'd call it a good modern OS. At this point, andriod or iOS is a far better alternative. The apps are quite easily installed and the games are plenty, even if they're not mainstream, cutting edge games.
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