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Man the linux fanboys viciously defend their obscure little OS lol. I can't think of a single office or company that uses the linux desktop. So for server side, yeah if you're looking to an IT career I'd say go for it. If not, there is no reason to waste your time unless you just like the fun/challenge of learning something new.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...ing_front.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/17474...ite_house.html

http://soltesza.wordpress.com/2011/0...do-with-linux/

just a few articles to suggest a good reason to at least "know" what linux is, and what it can do and already been doing.

i use to be in the camp "lets get everyone to use linux", but then i realized, we don't need that, cause 95% of all people who own a computer, shouldn't.
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No, most companies don't use Linux and as much trouble as I see with people using Windows, I don't think I would recommend it.

That's not to say there wouldn't be benefits. Such as being able to use older hardware for longer. Where I occasionally work, they're still using XP machines that need to be fixed up. Recently, they adopted a new program to do something and nearly every computer that runs it needed to have more ram installed.

When they finally upgrade to Windows 7, most of the machines will need to be replaced. Linux would give the IT geeks the option of trimming down the OS if need be.

It wouldn't be as bad as most people think. As long as the IT staff know Linux and install things properly, it would probably be fine. For office work, most people are going to stick to a GUI anyway.
    
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its amazing how ppl think by putting windows on a machine it is some how magically better and anyone setting at the machine will magically know how to use it and be able to do whatever they want.

they tend to forget we all have to learn these things.

my sister has been using a computer as long as i have, she still doesn't know how to install applications in windows, drivers, or even updates, she brings it to me, even tho i've shown her a million times on how to do it. she also seems not to know how to run a virus scan either.

so one day i risked it, since she only uses her computer to send emails, surf the web and ho' up on facebook, i threw ubuntu on her computer as a dual boot. i showed her how to use it, about a week later she called me and said this "windows is so damn slow, why can't you make it fast like ooo-boon-too?"

regardless to say that was back in may of this year, she spends a majority of her time in "ooo-boon-too", and the calls for "tech support" or "bug cleaning" has dropped drastically.

from my personal exp, this is why linux is better than windows, if my sister can learn "ooo-boon-too" any one can
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I had the exact opposite reaction.

I tried to get my brother to use it. He refused. His claim as to why is because he games too much... He games on consoles, not PC but whatever. I can't force him to use it.

I did get my dad to dualboot some time ago. He booted into Ubuntu and he said, "But what can I do with it?" I showed him the software center. He looked at it for 5 minutes and said, "There is nothing I want in there." He used it for browsing the internet but eventually went back to Windows full time.
    
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I had the exact opposite reaction.

I tried to get my brother to use it. He refused. His claim as to why is because he games too much... He games on consoles, not PC but whatever. I can't force him to use it.

I did get my dad to dualboot some time ago. He booted into Ubuntu and he said, "But what can I do with it?" I showed him the software center. He looked at it for 5 minutes and said, "There is nothing I want in there." He used it for browsing the internet but eventually went back to Windows full time.
I've actually become THAT guy. The one who tries to convince every friend to try out Linux. My friends are WoW addicts and refuse to even consider Linux. One friend's family PC broke down and needed a reformat so I offered Mint with the claim that it's like MAC OS X (lol) in the sense that there's no terminal work required. He refused and got one of my Win 7 disks.
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I had the exact opposite reaction.

I tried to get my brother to use it. He refused. His claim as to why is because he games too much... He games on consoles, not PC but whatever. I can't force him to use it.

I did get my dad to dualboot some time ago. He booted into Ubuntu and he said, "But what can I do with it?" I showed him the software center. He looked at it for 5 minutes and said, "There is nothing I want in there." He used it for browsing the internet but eventually went back to Windows full time.
at the core of the issue, i'm glad my exp isn't universal

it took me awhile, but i know firmly believe linux just isn't for everyone, but at the same toss of the coin, the ones who use it shouldn't be made to feel like they are "wasting" their time either with a "hobby".

i know a lot of people who use it, and they aren't all "enthusiest" or "programmers" or "hackers", its a stigma of linux to think the people who use it are super nerdy, living in basements in "man caves".

the main reason i do try to push it, is "repeat offenders" people who bring me their machines every 2 months, bugged up, browsers filled with 8 inches of toolbars, and a msconfig startup section that would make even the most powerful of super computers barf a processor when booting up.

i will make the suggestion, but the stigma remains with linux, i usually hear "i'm not a nerd" or "i wouldn't be able to do anything with it, cause i game a lot", from my personal exp, the ppl who claim the "gaming" route with linux, are farmville farmers, they haven't played a PC game since doom.

but windows might just work for them, it doesn't help their wallets much, as they are paying me all the time to fix their machines when windows gets a ITD (internet transmitted disease, geek humor, gotta love it.), or they get the brilliant idea that since they read a blog, they can now edit the registry or add remove programs is right click and delete...

i try to save as many as i can, but it doesn't always work, another plus point to linux over windows debate, my sister had been thinking of getting a new laptop, even after the windows 7 upgrade, cause of the "sluggish" nature of her laptop, only about a year old, maybe a year and a half, but ubuntu breathed new life into it for her, if anything i saved the computer from a craiglist ad.
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Man the linux fanboys viciously defend their obscure little OS lol. I can't think of a single office or company that uses the linux desktop. So for server side, yeah if you're looking to an IT career I'd say go for it. If not, there is no reason to waste your time unless you just like the fun/challenge of learning something new.
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Obscure? little?
OK man... take all of the *nix boxes out of the "equation"...

BYE-BYE INTERNET!
Can't think of an office... well, possibly the desktop is not "apparent", but... believe me... the back-office is probably there.

(red-hilite)You clearly have ZERO/nada/zilch/no/nil/nyet understanding of networking/computers-in-general.

(purple-hilite) Please... turn off your computer, unplug it at the wall, sell it on EBay because, in-a-nutshell... you are either a troll, or, you are incredibly stupid/ignorant/asleep/dead-under-a-stone/ (cross-out the non-applicable).


[edit] Nothing "vicious" there... just facts.
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obscure? Little?
Ok man... Take all of the *nix boxes out of the "equation"...

Bye-bye internet!
Can't think of an office... Well, possibly the desktop is not "apparent", but... Believe me... The back-office is probably there.

(red-hilite)you clearly have zero/nada/zilch/no/nil/nyet understanding of networking/computers-in-general.

(purple-hilite) please... Turn off your computer, unplug it at the wall, sell it on ebay because, in-a-nutshell... You are either a troll, or, you are incredibly stupid/ignorant/asleep/dead-under-a-stone/ (cross-out the non-applicable).
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like!!!!
Do you mean "like" as in... please... illustrate your point! ?
or
as in
"I like this!"?
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I've actually become THAT guy. The one who tries to convince every friend to try out Linux. My friends are WoW addicts and refuse to even consider Linux. One friend's family PC broke down and needed a reformat so I offered Mint with the claim that it's like MAC OS X (lol) in the sense that there's no terminal work required. He refused and got one of my Win 7 disks.
WoW in Linux runs well up to 10 man raid environments. 25+ gets very sluggish compared to Windows especially in open boss rooms with extended background terrain. I tried just about every optimization I could Google up but none really made a difference. I love Linux and I love Gentoo but I booted Windows to play WoW.

Maybe things have changed. I haven't played for a while and haven't tried the new expansion either.
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