Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Linux, Unix › what desktop GUI is better
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

what desktop GUI is better

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
ok so I finally decided to play with some linux and I was wondering what is the best GUI in terms of customizing and or closest to what windows is like, I like the vista taskbar look. And since I know there is a choice between Gnome and KDE...but WHICH!

help appreciated from you linux MASTERS
 
Problem Solver
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 3570k 4.5ghz 1.200v - 0.000 offset  Gigabyte z77X-UP4 TH Beta Bios F11C with lastes... Sapphire 7950 3GB GSkill 2x8gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 T2 @ 10-13-13-... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA 3.0 M4-CT128M4SSD1 Corsair H80 v2i AIO liquid cooling Windows 10 Professional x64 47 inch Samsung LCD HD TV 
PowerAudio
Corsair 850w modular stock 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q6600 GO @ 3.2ghz 1.28 Gigabyte P35 DS3-L Pencil modded Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb 2x1gb Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 & 2x1gb Gskill Pi 80... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD1 128GB SSD - OS Drive Samsung HD103UJ & SJ 1 Terabyte HDD LG 22x DVD burner Arctic Freezer Pro 2  
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 HannsG 27.5" Widescreen Red thingy 750w Single rail old raidmax from 1st build beat to death 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Problem Solver
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 3570k 4.5ghz 1.200v - 0.000 offset  Gigabyte z77X-UP4 TH Beta Bios F11C with lastes... Sapphire 7950 3GB GSkill 2x8gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 T2 @ 10-13-13-... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA 3.0 M4-CT128M4SSD1 Corsair H80 v2i AIO liquid cooling Windows 10 Professional x64 47 inch Samsung LCD HD TV 
PowerAudio
Corsair 850w modular stock 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q6600 GO @ 3.2ghz 1.28 Gigabyte P35 DS3-L Pencil modded Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb 2x1gb Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 & 2x1gb Gskill Pi 80... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD1 128GB SSD - OS Drive Samsung HD103UJ & SJ 1 Terabyte HDD LG 22x DVD burner Arctic Freezer Pro 2  
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 HannsG 27.5" Widescreen Red thingy 750w Single rail old raidmax from 1st build beat to death 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 19
KDE is more like Windows but I prefer GNOME. You have more choices than just KDE and GNOME though. There is XFCE, LXDE and a bunch of window managers like fluxbox, openbox, JWM... list goes on and on.

Even if you do choose GNOME (or KDE), you can change Windows manager. By default, GNOME uses the Metacity window manager. You can easily switch to the Compiz window manager. KDE uses KWin by default.

So yeah, you have a ton of choices. I use GNOME with Compiz. You might like KDE. It's all personal preference.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 Gigabyte EP45-UD3P EVGA GTX 465 4x2GB G.Skill 1066 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
750GB WD Caviar Black Windows 7 ASUS VW224U Dual Screens Corsair 750w HX 
Case
CM Storm Sniper Black 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 Gigabyte EP45-UD3P EVGA GTX 465 4x2GB G.Skill 1066 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
750GB WD Caviar Black Windows 7 ASUS VW224U Dual Screens Corsair 750w HX 
Case
CM Storm Sniper Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
ok cool cause I plan on folding in Linux and all other general stuff, and prob windows for the rest. how good is WINE? I have heard alot of mixed things about it, and no not for gaming I prefer to stick with windows for that lol.
 
Problem Solver
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 3570k 4.5ghz 1.200v - 0.000 offset  Gigabyte z77X-UP4 TH Beta Bios F11C with lastes... Sapphire 7950 3GB GSkill 2x8gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 T2 @ 10-13-13-... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA 3.0 M4-CT128M4SSD1 Corsair H80 v2i AIO liquid cooling Windows 10 Professional x64 47 inch Samsung LCD HD TV 
PowerAudio
Corsair 850w modular stock 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q6600 GO @ 3.2ghz 1.28 Gigabyte P35 DS3-L Pencil modded Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb 2x1gb Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 & 2x1gb Gskill Pi 80... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD1 128GB SSD - OS Drive Samsung HD103UJ & SJ 1 Terabyte HDD LG 22x DVD burner Arctic Freezer Pro 2  
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 HannsG 27.5" Widescreen Red thingy 750w Single rail old raidmax from 1st build beat to death 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Problem Solver
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 3570k 4.5ghz 1.200v - 0.000 offset  Gigabyte z77X-UP4 TH Beta Bios F11C with lastes... Sapphire 7950 3GB GSkill 2x8gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 T2 @ 10-13-13-... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA 3.0 M4-CT128M4SSD1 Corsair H80 v2i AIO liquid cooling Windows 10 Professional x64 47 inch Samsung LCD HD TV 
PowerAudio
Corsair 850w modular stock 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q6600 GO @ 3.2ghz 1.28 Gigabyte P35 DS3-L Pencil modded Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb 2x1gb Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 & 2x1gb Gskill Pi 80... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD1 128GB SSD - OS Drive Samsung HD103UJ & SJ 1 Terabyte HDD LG 22x DVD burner Arctic Freezer Pro 2  
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 HannsG 27.5" Widescreen Red thingy 750w Single rail old raidmax from 1st build beat to death 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 19
I've just moved to Arch with Openbox and it's absolutely brilliant. If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, then this is such a great way to learn about some of the intricacies of a Linux OS and to set up an install EXACTLY to your liking. Plus it's crazy fast.

If you want something that just works then you've really got to choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE and XFCE. Best bet might be to play around with them on a toy VM install to get a feel for what you like before you do a proper install.

As for WINE, definite no-no for gaming, but for everything else I've used it for it's been ok. However, if you look around a bit you can almost definitely find a Linux application that does the job you want
Home PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x6 1055T (95W) Asus Crosshair IV Formula Gigabyte 5870 + HIS 5870 CF 2x 2GB OCZ Platinium DDR3 @1333Mhz (7-7-7-16) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500 GB TSSTCorp CDDVDW TS-H653R Arch x86_64 2x LG Flatron W2243S (3840 x 1080) 
PowerCase
Seasonic X-750W Coolermaster CM690II Adv 
  hide details  
Reply
Home PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x6 1055T (95W) Asus Crosshair IV Formula Gigabyte 5870 + HIS 5870 CF 2x 2GB OCZ Platinium DDR3 @1333Mhz (7-7-7-16) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500 GB TSSTCorp CDDVDW TS-H653R Arch x86_64 2x LG Flatron W2243S (3840 x 1080) 
PowerCase
Seasonic X-750W Coolermaster CM690II Adv 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 19
The newest "Linux Journal" has a several page article discussing the differences between them I would take a look at that.
Turn into a Jet
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-750 @ 4.0 ASROCK P55 Extreme 9800 GTX+ 4x2GB Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
1x40GB Intel SSD, 1x250GB WD HDD Sabayon 19" Hans G Widescreen and 21" CRT Corsair 650Watt 
CaseMouse Pad
MM CYO U2UFO 13 Case Fans None! 
  hide details  
Reply
Turn into a Jet
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-750 @ 4.0 ASROCK P55 Extreme 9800 GTX+ 4x2GB Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
1x40GB Intel SSD, 1x250GB WD HDD Sabayon 19" Hans G Widescreen and 21" CRT Corsair 650Watt 
CaseMouse Pad
MM CYO U2UFO 13 Case Fans None! 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 19
"Best" is a matter of taste. You can customize KDE to look more like Gnome and vice versa if you want.

GUIs are a big pond, as TFB pointed out. My fav GUI was Enlightenment E17. Lightweight and blingy.
DD Boxen
(23 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1230 Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/Gen3 Powercolor 6970 2GB G. Skill 1600mHz Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
SpinpontF3 1TB, WD 250, and WD320 Lite-On DT Waterblocks DT5Noz Waterblock Swiftech Komodo 6900-1 Waterblock 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Swiftech MCR-220 Drive radiator Swiftech MCR-220 QP radiator 6xGentle Typhoon AP-15s Archx64 KDE4.5, Windows 7 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Eyefinity 3-head 5265x1050 OCN Ducky!! MX Blue Switches XFX 750W Black Edition Mountain Mods H2gO 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Razer Naga Asus Xonar Essence STX Sennheiser 595 Sony STR-DE995 A/V receiver 
OtherOther
Lian Li Card flash memory reader Asus PCE-N15 Wifi-N card 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 1055T Gigabyte 790 Sapphire 4850x2 2x2GB 1600mHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
A few Yes Vista/7 Das Keyboard 
Power
Ugly 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 1.2 GHz Something kinda small Qualcomm Adreno core 16GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
None N/A WebOS 3.0.2 9.7" XGA, multitouch 
PowerCase
6300mAh Piano Black 
  hide details  
Reply
DD Boxen
(23 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1230 Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/Gen3 Powercolor 6970 2GB G. Skill 1600mHz Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
SpinpontF3 1TB, WD 250, and WD320 Lite-On DT Waterblocks DT5Noz Waterblock Swiftech Komodo 6900-1 Waterblock 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Swiftech MCR-220 Drive radiator Swiftech MCR-220 QP radiator 6xGentle Typhoon AP-15s Archx64 KDE4.5, Windows 7 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Eyefinity 3-head 5265x1050 OCN Ducky!! MX Blue Switches XFX 750W Black Edition Mountain Mods H2gO 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Razer Naga Asus Xonar Essence STX Sennheiser 595 Sony STR-DE995 A/V receiver 
OtherOther
Lian Li Card flash memory reader Asus PCE-N15 Wifi-N card 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 1055T Gigabyte 790 Sapphire 4850x2 2x2GB 1600mHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
A few Yes Vista/7 Das Keyboard 
Power
Ugly 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 1.2 GHz Something kinda small Qualcomm Adreno core 16GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
None N/A WebOS 3.0.2 9.7" XGA, multitouch 
PowerCase
6300mAh Piano Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
well that is good to know, well for now i am going to be using mint 10(gnome) and mint 9(kde) both x64. Now is the x64 stuff work like it does in windows? you can use 32bit in x64 bit not the other way around?

And to find different Guis would i just google like "linux guis" or something of the sort. But i would assume tho i would prob have to use the terminal to uninstall and install them if Im correct on that one. And is updating the kernal hard to do?
 
Problem Solver
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 3570k 4.5ghz 1.200v - 0.000 offset  Gigabyte z77X-UP4 TH Beta Bios F11C with lastes... Sapphire 7950 3GB GSkill 2x8gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 T2 @ 10-13-13-... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA 3.0 M4-CT128M4SSD1 Corsair H80 v2i AIO liquid cooling Windows 10 Professional x64 47 inch Samsung LCD HD TV 
PowerAudio
Corsair 850w modular stock 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q6600 GO @ 3.2ghz 1.28 Gigabyte P35 DS3-L Pencil modded Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb 2x1gb Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 & 2x1gb Gskill Pi 80... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD1 128GB SSD - OS Drive Samsung HD103UJ & SJ 1 Terabyte HDD LG 22x DVD burner Arctic Freezer Pro 2  
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 HannsG 27.5" Widescreen Red thingy 750w Single rail old raidmax from 1st build beat to death 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Problem Solver
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 3570k 4.5ghz 1.200v - 0.000 offset  Gigabyte z77X-UP4 TH Beta Bios F11C with lastes... Sapphire 7950 3GB GSkill 2x8gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 T2 @ 10-13-13-... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA 3.0 M4-CT128M4SSD1 Corsair H80 v2i AIO liquid cooling Windows 10 Professional x64 47 inch Samsung LCD HD TV 
PowerAudio
Corsair 850w modular stock 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q6600 GO @ 3.2ghz 1.28 Gigabyte P35 DS3-L Pencil modded Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb 2x1gb Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 & 2x1gb Gskill Pi 80... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD1 128GB SSD - OS Drive Samsung HD103UJ & SJ 1 Terabyte HDD LG 22x DVD burner Arctic Freezer Pro 2  
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 HannsG 27.5" Widescreen Red thingy 750w Single rail old raidmax from 1st build beat to death 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 19
Yes, you can run 32bit software on a 64bit OS. It might take a little trickery. I know I had to force install some packages but for the most part, you should be fine.

You should be able to find other Desktop Environments/Window Managers in Synaptic (I believe Mint has Synaptic). It is probably just a very limited selection though.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 Gigabyte EP45-UD3P EVGA GTX 465 4x2GB G.Skill 1066 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
750GB WD Caviar Black Windows 7 ASUS VW224U Dual Screens Corsair 750w HX 
Case
CM Storm Sniper Black 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 Gigabyte EP45-UD3P EVGA GTX 465 4x2GB G.Skill 1066 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
750GB WD Caviar Black Windows 7 ASUS VW224U Dual Screens Corsair 750w HX 
Case
CM Storm Sniper Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 19
KDE and Windows like to copy ideas off each other, so feature wise they are pretty close. (KDE wins of course for being completely open and customizable)


As for other DEs, I still haven't really found a point to them, unless you're looking for extremely low resource use. XFCE is nice if you have a slow computer or a netbook, but the rest like the *boxes, awesome, etc.. are just parts of the whole, and are lacking in a lot of features. The only plus is that they tend to be easier to configure than Metacity, which makes them suitable replacements in Gnome.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4670k ASUS Maximus VI Gene Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB Kingston Hyper-X 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 830 OCZ Vertex 3 WD6401AALS WD5000AAKS 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Noctua NH-D14 elementary OS Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM LG W2442PA-BF 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair HX750W Corsair Graphite 600T Logitech G700 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DG 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4670k ASUS Maximus VI Gene Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB Kingston Hyper-X 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 830 OCZ Vertex 3 WD6401AALS WD5000AAKS 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Noctua NH-D14 elementary OS Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM LG W2442PA-BF 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair HX750W Corsair Graphite 600T Logitech G700 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DG 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 19
Greetz
Asking what is the best DE is like asking "How long is a string". It doesn't work standing alone. It depends on what you're used to and most importantly what you wish to do, how much you're wiling to learn, and on what hardware. Taste and personal preference should come later.

Also it is a moving target since WM/DEs change over time and in the case of KDE, sometimes rather radically. When KDE v4 first came out I would not and did not recommend it for beginners. It isn't only that it was more complex (but does more) but it was a bit buggy and really chewed resources. Sometime around v4.5.x that started coming together and getting smooth and more streamlined. However the full package still offers more than average users want or need. For one thing it is rich in development tools, only some (like Kompare) which have much use for the average user. It has educational tools like KStars which is a desktop planetarium that only some will appreciate. These are but examples of a full spectrum.

Gnome is more than adequate for most people and most boxes. Xfce works on just about everything and creates a pretty nice niche between austere and loaded. It's just kinda primitive looking even when tweaked hard. If the team ever gets really serious and/or funded I think E17 might blow Xfxe out of the water because it has a similar resource footprint and looks much more Big Pimpin'.

Bottom Line - if you have sufficient hard drive space, try 'em all or at least many. They're fun to check out and create a wide perspective useful in settling on one... or four.
NewMain
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 - 3550 Asrock Z77 Extreme4 Gigabyte GTX 760  4x2GB Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate SATA 2TB x 2  Plextor PX-891SAW CM-Hyper N520 Slackware 14, Studio KUbuntu, OpenSuSe 12.3, Wi... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
32" Vizio HDTV + DLP Logitech Wireless Corsair HX-850 Antec Sonata I 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Razer DeathAdder 2013 dual ESI Juli@ CoolGear ExtSata Enclosure w/ Optical and 3TB S... 
  hide details  
Reply
NewMain
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 - 3550 Asrock Z77 Extreme4 Gigabyte GTX 760  4x2GB Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate SATA 2TB x 2  Plextor PX-891SAW CM-Hyper N520 Slackware 14, Studio KUbuntu, OpenSuSe 12.3, Wi... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
32" Vizio HDTV + DLP Logitech Wireless Corsair HX-850 Antec Sonata I 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Razer DeathAdder 2013 dual ESI Juli@ CoolGear ExtSata Enclosure w/ Optical and 3TB S... 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Linux, Unix
Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Linux, Unix › what desktop GUI is better