8800GT, 9800GT = both G92, 112 SP, same clock speeds
8800GS, 9600GSO (first release) = both G92, 96 SP, same clock speeds
8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, GTS250 = all G92, 128 SP, same clock speeds, with the exception of SOME being a die shrink (even some 9800GTX+ and GTS250's are still 65nm instead of 55nm).
All of those cards were exact rebrands. They were all IDENTICAL in performance and overclockability. The ONLY difference between any of those cards was the name on it. THAT is a rebrand.
Originally Posted by codejunki;12162274
An increase of shader clock by this much and to add a cluster is more then enough proof that to remain in the same league of power consumption, and the 560TI's can hit 1ghz core on stock voltage, more than enough to prove that the refinement and tweaks on the gf114 is more than just a mere core enabling.
This right here just further proves it. In order to get those kind of clocks out of a supposed rebrand, its impossible. The architecture has been improved. To have an older example here, its like the 8800GS / 9600GSO, turning into a GT240. They're nearly identical (G92, G215), they perform identically, they have the same amount of SP's, and the G215 is actually based off G92 (just like G104 vs. G114). However the architecture was improved significantly to allow less power consumption for the same speeds.