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Your proof is in the pudding, as the saying goes. Has anyone flashed a 460's BIOS to fully unlock it to a 560? No. Will any one ever succeed at such a task? Doubtful. The burden of proof is actually on you, since you're the one who proposed the notion to begin with.
    
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post #102 of 331
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Originally Posted by Stillhouse;12162168 
All you have proven is that the 460 and 560 are close enough cousins to be compatible with the same BIOS, but no unlocking results. Period.

Yea... cause nvidia took care about this smile.gif). A... not close, they are the same. This is a big difference. Come on guys, marketing? Do you think nvidia and ati are making cards because they love to do good things in the world? NO! they are doing it for money, money, money. And to make money sale the same **** with different wrapping.
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An increase of shader clock by this much and to add a cluster is more then enough proof that to remain in the same league of power consumption, and the 560TI's can hit 1ghz core on stock voltage, more than enough to prove that the refinement and tweaks on the gf114 is more than just a mere core enabling.
    
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Originally Posted by jfk1024;12162184 
Surely not done by you smile.gif). Hello! I am an engineer. We are trying to see if we can do it, so get lost and let us do it. Please, kiss some nvidian ass and speak somewhere else about the things you can't do, or whatever. We don't need ballast text. Take care :-*

My dad was an engineer first. So you can leave now.
    
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post #105 of 331
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Originally Posted by jfk1024;12162251 
Yea... cause nvidia took care about this smile.gif). A... not close, they are the same. This is a big difference. Come on guys, marketing? Do you think nvidia and ati are making cards because they love to do good things in the world? NO! they are doing it for money, money, money. And to make money sale the same **** with different wrapping.

If they were the same, then flashing a 560 BIOS onto a 460 should have unlocked the "disabled" clusters. But guess what, it didn't. Until someone does so, the ball is in your court to prove yourself right. Good day.
    
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An increase of shader clock by this much and to add a cluster is more then enough proof that to remain in the same league of power consumption, and the 560TI's can hit 1ghz core on stock voltage, more than enough to prove that the refinement and tweaks on the gf114 is more than just a mere core enabling.

It's just a table, it doesn't prove anything. yea... the gf 114 it's the new generation, the future. Then why with a gtx 460 over-clocked to 900MHz i obtained a 3dmark11 GPU performance score of 3972? and gtx 560 Ti obtaind a 4070 GPU performance score in the same 3dmark11? Because the gtx 560 it's a new changed card, with what?
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My dad was an engineer first. So you can leave now.

yea... a... mechanical engineer?
post #108 of 331
Firstly.....

8800GT, 9800GT = both G92, 112 SP, same clock speeds
8800GS, 9600GSO (first release) = both G92, 96 SP, same clock speeds
8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, GTS250 = all G92, 128 SP, same clock speeds, with the exception of SOME being a die shrink (even some 9800GTX+ and GTS250's are still 65nm instead of 55nm).

All of those cards were exact rebrands. They were all IDENTICAL in performance and overclockability. The ONLY difference between any of those cards was the name on it. THAT is a rebrand.
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190915d1295334541-gtx-460-vs-560-what-will-gtx-560-vs-460.jpg
An increase of shader clock by this much and to add a cluster is more then enough proof that to remain in the same league of power consumption, and the 560TI's can hit 1ghz core on stock voltage, more than enough to prove that the refinement and tweaks on the gf114 is more than just a mere core enabling.

This right here just further proves it. In order to get those kind of clocks out of a supposed rebrand, its impossible. The architecture has been improved. To have an older example here, its like the 8800GS / 9600GSO, turning into a GT240. They're nearly identical (G92, G215), they perform identically, they have the same amount of SP's, and the G215 is actually based off G92 (just like G104 vs. G114). However the architecture was improved significantly to allow less power consumption for the same speeds.
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It's just a table, it doesn't prove anything. yea... the gf 114 it's the new generation, the future. Then why with a gtx 460 over-clocked to 900MHz i obtained a 3dmark11 GPU performance score of 3972? and gtx 560 Ti obtaind a 4070 GPU performance score in the same 3dmark11? Because the gtx 560 it's a new changed card, with what?

Wow, tell you what, have fun trying to climp a vertical mountain, its not going to work, and you obviously didnt read the post under the table, lazy.
    
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;12162369 
Firstly.....

8800GT, 9800GT = both G92, 112 SP, same clock speeds
8800GS, 9600GSO (first release) = both G92, 96 SP, same clock speeds
8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, GTS250 = all G92, 128 SP, same clock speeds, with the exception of SOME being a die shrink (even some 9800GTX+ and GTS250's are still 65nm instead of 55nm).

All of those cards were exact rebrands. They were all IDENTICAL in performance and overclockability. The ONLY difference between any of those cards was the name on it. THAT is a rebrand.



This right here just further proves it. In order to get those kind of clocks out of a supposed rebrand, its impossible. The architecture has been improved. To have an older example here, its like the 8800GS / 9600GSO, turning into a GT240. They're nearly identical (G92, G215), they perform identically, they have the same amount of SP's, and the G215 is actually based off G92 (just like G104 vs. G114). However the architecture was improved significantly to allow less power consumption for the same speeds.

Ty pioneer, i was thinking their werent any other computer literate people to come to my aid.
    
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