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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
I agree to an EXTENT on your point there. Yes, they have done it in the past. But the thing to remember here, is that the OP isn't the only idiot in the world that likes to tinker. I'm definitely not saying this is a bad thing. This is how we find out about these sort of unlocks...idiots tinkering around.

The thing is though, if this was possible, we would have found out about it shortly after release of the GTX460. As we have with every other unlock, its ALWAYS been found out shortly after release of the product.
I agree wholeheartedly with you pioneer. I'm not here to argue against the points being made at all (I know nothing about the architectures of both the GTX 460 and GTX 560, so I'd look like a fool if I tried to argue). I was just here to point out that OCNers should not be so quick to say something like "WHY WOULD NVIDIA EVER DO SUCH A THING?!?!" Because history has shown that they, along with many other companies, are not above re-branding and selling.

I'm looking forward to the results in this thread, as I have a friend who wants to try it out on his own 460 (LOL!)
 
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While I agree to a point with your arguments, it would be nice if you would stop calling us idiots. We both have our reasons as to why it would or would not work. What we both need is some solid evidence, which I'm going after.

I'm going to wait until I get a response from nvidia or a manufacturer before attempting to flash my only GPU with a 560 BIOS. Is that a fair argument?
The idiot remark isn't necessarily a "bad" thing. Again, all of our unlocks that we know about have been figured out by people that I would call an "idiot" based off of things exactly like this.

My point being, that if this was possible, it would have been done already. The GTX460 has been out for a very long time now. SOMEBODY would have figured out that you could unlock the extra SP's by now. Period. There's enough "idiots" in the world to have already looked at the BIOS and the firmware and found out....hey these extra 48 SP's can be unlocked by software!

But that hasn't happened, because its impossible. Same thing with this BIOS flash. Sure, you can put the BIOS on it, but its not going to change a thing. The card is still physically going to be a GTX460.

I'm simply ATTEMPTING to save you guys some time, and the possibility of a bricked card.

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I agree somewhat that it's speculation. And I think it's inaccurate to say the extra cluster is not there on gf104. It's certainly THERE, but it's (I believe) the connection to it that is cut.

It's very clear that the extra two SM's on the 470 were cut, not just disabled, because people tried flashing 470's to 480's many times, and it doesn't work to unlock an SM.

Personally I think that if the last SM on GF104 was only locked down via firmware, there's people out there smart enough to figure out how to mod the GTX460 bios to unlock the SM if it could be done. Just look at a 465 bios vs. a 470 bios in a hex editor, figure out how the 'locking' was done there, and translate this change to the 460 bios, basically.

So, my take is that if could be done, someone would've done it already, and we'd all know about it by now.
This exactly. If it could have been done, it would have been done a very long time ago.
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The idiot remark isn't necessarily a "bad" thing. Again, all of our unlocks that we know about have been figured out by people that I would call an "idiot" based off of things exactly like this.

My point being, that if this was possible, it would have been done already. The GTX460 has been out for a very long time now. SOMEBODY would have figured out that you could unlock the extra SP's by now. Period. There's enough "idiots" in the world to have already looked at the BIOS and the firmware and found out....hey these extra 48 SP's can be unlocked by software!

But that hasn't happened, because its impossible. Same thing with this BIOS flash. Sure, you can put the BIOS on it, but its not going to change a thing. The card is still physically going to be a GTX460.

I'm simply ATTEMPTING to save you guys some time, and the possibility of a bricked card.



This exactly. If it could have been done, it would have been done a very long time ago.
How long has the GTX 560 been out though? 2-3 days? It's the first card with an almost (if not completely) identical GPU to the GTX 460 that is fully unlocked by default, not to mention clocked higher.

If you're going to use the GTX 470/465 argument, remember that the 470 was released before the 465. They had the BIOS'es ready before the 465 was even released.

While we are on this topic, how long did it take for unlocking pipelines to be discovered back in the day? I'm curious
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How long has the GTX 560 been out though? 2-3 days? It's the first card with an almost (if not completely) identical GPU to the GTX 460 that is fully unlocked by default, not to mention clocked higher.

If you're going to use the GTX 470/465 argument, remember that the 470 was released before the 465. They had the BIOS'es ready before the 465 was even released.

While we are on this topic, how long did it take for unlocking pipelines to be discovered back in the day? I'm curious
Just because the GTX560 has only been out a few days doesn't mean anything at all. We've had the software to tinker with this stuff for YEARS. If it were possible, somebody would have discovered it LONG ago. Period.

It was already known (as per the pictures shown in this thread), that the GTX460 has a locked unit on it. I'm assuming that was probably known before the 460 was even released. And I'll bet money on it, that people have already looked into it months ago, knowing full well that unit was locked out...and tried to unlock it. But nobody has, because it cannot be done.

The unlock of the pipelines was discovered very quickly. I remember reviews done before some of the GeForce 6 cards were released, and they were talking about unlocking them into higher end cards via Rivatuner.

Again, if it was possible to be done, it would have been done before release day or shortly there after.
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How long has the GTX 560 been out though? 2-3 days? It's the first card with an almost (if not completely) identical GPU to the GTX 460 that is fully unlocked by default, not to mention clocked higher.

If you're going to use the GTX 470/465 argument, remember that the 470 was released before the 465. They had the BIOS'es ready before the 465 was even released.

While we are on this topic, how long did it take for unlocking pipelines to be discovered back in the day? I'm curious
...are you listening?

The GF104 is not the same as GF114. There are few hundred million differences. Why do you even attempt to insuate they are the same GPU? They are not... we all know this already.

I already explained the existence of the GTX465.
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brb flashing my GTS 450 to a 580

where can I download some more RAM? I bet that's locked via firmware also.
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why is everyone taking the piss? seriously?

Surely it cant hurt to have a try at it.. can it. ffs
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brb flashing my GTS 450 to a 580

where can I download some more RAM? I bet that's locked via firmware also.
Here you go.

Maybe the OP might like that link too.
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Here you go.

Maybe the OP might like that link too.
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