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... ok, come on guys, nvidia and ati are always rebrandig cards just tot take our money. Nvidia is not stupid cause they are sellig rebranded products to us, we are stupid cause we're buying.
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pin for pin compatible - IT IS A REBRANDED GF 104 lol. Tanks for the input guys. I wonder if I can get the msi 560 hawk bios and flash one of my cards to see what happens. Would someone post a link for a guide as ive no idea what im doing.

Thanks againfolks. The fact that it works is quite pleasing, maybe different bios` will unlock the cluster, or maybe some cards generally do have a gimped 8th cluster, and some dont! only time will tell
No. Its just the same "socket", thats like buying a regor AM3, then trying to unlock it to a deneb, for the last time the gf104 and gf114 are 2 totally different cores. You may be able to flash a 560 bios for higher clocks, but your risking bricking your card.
    
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jeasus pioneer your really not listening. What part of 570 and 470 are different architecture dont you understand. We have proof. Its common knowledge.

Listen carefully, the 560 is a 460 with all of its clusters unlocked. We have proof, as the 460 works with the 560 bios. The clusters may not have unlocked, but this isnt to say its not going to happen.
Holy crap dude, get this threw your head, a 460 and 560 are just as similar as a 480 and a 580 are. Have fun, for all you know you couldve inspired someone to do something stupid and brick their card.
    
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lol @ the noobs that come to this site and try funky weird things to brick their cards.
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No. Its just the same "socket", thats like buying a regor AM3, then trying to unlock it to a deneb, for the last time the gf104 and gf114 are 2 totally different cores. You may be able to flash a 560 bios for higher clocks, but your risking bricking your card.
The card is fine . You don't have to worry because we are thinking :-*
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jeasus pioneer your really not listening. What part of 570 and 470 are different architecture dont you understand. We have proof. Its common knowledge.

Listen carefully, the 560 is a 460 with all of its clusters unlocked. We have proof, as the 460 works with the 560 bios. The clusters may not have unlocked, but this isnt to say its not going to happen.
...and what is your point?

It does not do anything. Thread closed.

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... ok, come on guys, nvidia and ati are always rebrandig cards just tot take our money. Nvidia is not stupid cause they are sellig rebranded products to us, we are stupid cause we're buying.
It's NOT a rebrand. NVIDIA went in and redesigned the transistors. If you think this is easy, then you don't know much about chip manufacturing. The choose blocks that would not be affected by using slower or even slower transistors. This requires a full silicon respin and probably a few minor respins.

EDIT: It's an A1... so it required only one full respin then:


Edited by DuckieHo - 1/27/11 at 7:01am
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Excuse me but it seems people have flashed their 460's to 560's, even if not unlocked the extra shaders as we hoped, it didn't brick our cards as you said it would.

And it would be more like trying to flash your 8800GT to a 9800GT.

I mean no disrespect, just playing devil's advocate
The 8800gt and 9800gt ARE REBRANDED. You run the risk of bricking your card everytime you do something like flash the bios, what if you lost power during flashing? Then what?
    
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The card is fine . You don't have to worry because we are thinking :-*
You may think, what if you run into problems later in the cards life, why dont we try running a 580 bios on my 480, OH YA BECUZ THATS DUMB, WHY WOULD I RUN A BIOS MEANT FOR A CARD I DONT HAVE?
    
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I think nvidia did something to overwrite the gtx 460 bios just after they are flashed. Does anyone know how to turn a gtx 460 into gtx 560? I think the laser cut story is just a myth. Does the gtx 460 has a bios chip on the board? Did someone tried to change it with a gtx 560 one? What happens with a gtx 560 if we put the gtx 460 bios?

I have flashed my gtx 460 with gtx 560 bios and worked just fine. It's not about breaking cards, or spending money, it's all about technology. Don't worry about me cause i'm thinking. I am a telecommunication engineer and i just wanted to know if someone tested this cause i don't have the money to buy a gtx 560 and try that. I also want to talk to a bios programmer, to see what is different between those 2 bioses. The GPU is just like a FPGA, Important is the code that make him use his structures,modules and so on.

This is the only difference... so please think with me, not against me.
GTX 460 Architecture



GTX 560 Architecture
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I think nvidia did something to overwrite the gtx 460 bios just after they are flashed. Does anyone know how to turn a gtx 460 into gtx 560? I think the laser cut story is just a myth. Does the gtx 460 has a bios chip on the board? Did someone tried to change it with a gtx 560 one? What happens with a gtx 560 if we put the gtx 460 bios?

I have flashed my gtx 460 with gtx 560 bios and worked just fine. It's not about breaking cards, or spending money, it's all about technology. Don't worry about me cause i'm thinking. I am a telecommunication engineer and i just wanted to know if someone tested this cause i don't have the money to buy a gtx 560 and try that. I also want to talk to a bios programmer, to see what is different between those 2 bioses. The GPU is just like a FPGA, Important is the code that make him use his structures,modules and so on.

This is the only difference... so please think with me, not against me.
GTX 460 Architecture



GTX 560 Architecture
Its a totally different revised version, everything about is different is small ways, they arch. layout may be the same, but you think nvidia was going to redesign a whole new arch? 2nd gen fermi is obviously going to be based on 1st gen, if nvidia didnt want you to unlock the extra cluster, i think their engineers are a little smarter than to you to make sure you dont.
    
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