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Originally Posted by T3h_Ch33z_Muncha View Post
herpa derpa, like Canada is the first country in the world to have quotas?
How many countries are moving from uncapped/high caps with no overages to low caps + overages?

Bell is actively trying to move backward.
    
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Telus has a cap anything over is $2 per gb. It sucks only having really 2 internet service providers.
They have had that listed for years. It's not enforced and they currently are saying they have no plans to enforce it.

I have a friend who has 3 load balanced telus lines that he constantly has maxed out with torrents, up and down. Doesn't pay a cent in overages.


Of course you have to deal with their POS actiontec modems and customer service reps who try to give you a fax number for actiontec when you tell them port forwarding is broken, but at least there is no caps.

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Originally Posted by Tadaen Sylvermane View Post
As much as I hate to say it, this makes sense. Every other thing we use is metered in one way or another. Should pay for what you use. Not saying I like it but it won't surprise me one bit if it all goes this way. Although if it does I don't see how the cloud ideas will ever work for anyone.
I was paying 40 dollars a month for what I used with shaw, a 7.5Mbit line.

Oh what, there network can't handle people actually using the full speed? Too bad, start upgrading.

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Rare? More like non existent.
there is an ongoing competition to see who can provide the worst services for the most money.

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Ha. I thought Canadians knew how to keep their corporate exploiters on a leash.
lol.

This is just another in a series of horrible moves.

I particularly liked when Shaw decided to drop their internet+tv bundle to 10 dollars a month. ONLY in buildings where novus was available.

Although they did get sued over that one IIRC.

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Originally Posted by dontpwnmebro View Post
so guys. a lot of good games are coming out on steam. how's that internet working for you?
Pretty good except telus has the most useless customer service ever.

and they lock down the equipment to a ridiculous degree. I can understand locking the QOS settings that are needed to ensure the TV comes in properly, but locking me on the 192.168.1.1 subnet? lame.


I am quite happy with the internet service though. Speed has been rock solid, MUCH MUCH better than shaw.
    
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I totally agree with this, but most people seem to have missed the point that this metered internet will actually cost about $1 per GB(while actual cost are about a cent or so (at least, it's what says Netflix CEO (source).

Now, you may say that you'd just have to go to another ISP, however, competition is rare in the Canadian telecommunications markets, because the companies must be Canadian. Which is why the CRTC allowed "resellers" to use the infrastructure that after all, public funds had largely participated in financing, which is the only way to have unlimited internet at a reasonable price over here. However, the same CRTC ruling implies that these resellers will be charged the same price than retail customers, minus 15%. Which means no more unlimited (or reasonably capped) internet.

The problem is not the "pay per gigabyte", it's the "pay a buck per gigabyte". Because, of course, it leads to less video streaming on the internet for the average joe, and more watching TV provided via satellite by... Bell Canada.
That's what's disturbing here. Is the meter is not a meter. It's a limitation with a punitive economic damage attached to it. But really you should have seen this coming from a mile away.

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I posted this on the other thread, it's worth seeing.

http://blog.pault.ag/post/3048351262...seriously-data
    
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Maybe you guys will finally throw your government bums out of office like we are doing to ours.
    
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The problem is not the "pay per gigabyte", it's the "pay a buck per gigabyte". Because, of course, it leads to less video streaming on the internet for the average joe, and more watching TV provided via satellite by... Bell Canada.
That is exactly the point I was making. There is a big difference between a few cents per GB, and a few dollars per GB. Even if it was 10 cents a GB, downloading an entire movie would still be cheap, like 40 or 50 cents - but $1, or $2?

And then you have to consider what they consider "traffic". Like, do I have to pay for the megs and megs of the spam Bell will inevitably send? They could spam me with 10MB flash video email like five times a day, and at $2 per GB, multipled by everyone - they could rake in another billion dollars - cas hthey can use to hire more lawyers to go out and crush the tiny businesses that are their "competition".

And if the system us UBB - then it should be entirely be UBB - no monthy fees or anything, just pure charge for the data, just like electricity.
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Maybe you guys will finally throw your government bums out of office like we are doing to ours.
That's the scary thing, because the other parties are even bigger looters tha nthe bandits that are in now.
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And then you have to consider what they consider "traffic". Like, do I have to pay for the megs and megs of the spam Bell will inevitably send? They could spam me with 10MB flash video email like five times a day, and at $2 per GB, multipled by everyone - they could rake in another billion dollars - cash they can use to hire more lawyers to go out and crush the tiny businesses that are their "competition".
Shaw does this to their customers to. Video ads and junky cartoons.

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And if the system us UBB - then it should be entirely be UBB - no monthy fees or anything, just pure charge for the data, just like electricity.
Nooo... They need the base charges. That way they rake in billions on top of what they already earn form plan charges.

If they went to UBB then they would have to charge granny $3 month since she only checks email.
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Lol I'm getting a kick out of people whining about their slow 20mbit connections. My dsl is 315KB/s down and 55KB/s up
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Maybe you guys will finally throw your government bums out of office like we are doing to ours.
Yeah! And replace them with people who will actually do productive things such as...

reading huge documents verbatim to waste time

concocting half-baked legislation with titles that a fourth grader would have written

obstructing all useful legislation

Or do you whacky Canucks care more about real action than political posturing and childishness?
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