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Originally Posted by Flux;12156188 
Im pretty sure you have already asked this question.. and were given the answer of TJ07

This ^^^

MM will require a lot of work with cable management to get it just the way you want it. If you're unwilling to do modding of any kind then I honestly don't see this being the case for you.

800D will require more modding than a tj07 to fit more/bigger rads into it also...

Not to sound like a cliché, but does size really matter?

I'm not entirely sure what you want in a case any more; you think the TJ07 is small (although it is an e-atx case and I think you're the only person I've heard who's ever called it "small").

What do you plan on putting in there that is making you reconsider the size of the tj07? With no modding you can fit a 480 and a 240 rad down below. With a little modding you can fit a 240 in the drive bays and a 240/360 on top. How much more space do you need?
Edited by Philth - 1/26/11 at 8:53pm
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With no modding you can fit a 480 and a 360 rad down below.

Have you actually tried this? I'm positive that you can't. A 480 + 240 is doable though (still a very tight squeeze when taking into account PSU lengths these days and space for wiring).
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Originally Posted by farkle0079;12157819 
Have you actually tried this? I'm positive that you can't. A 480 + 240 is doable though (still a very tight squeeze when taking into account PSU lengths these days and space for wiring).

Took another look and you're right, I might have exaggerated with a 360 +480.

However, a 480 AND a 240 is still more than enough for most loops or dual loops.
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Originally Posted by Philth;12157730 
This ^^^

MM will require a lot of work with cable management to get it just the way you want it. If you're unwilling to do modding of any kind then I honestly don't see this being the case for you.

800D will require more modding than a tj07 to fit more/bigger rads into it also...

Not to sound like a cliché, but does size really matter?

I'm not entirely sure what you want in a case any more; you think the TJ07 is small (although it is an e-atx case and I think you're the only person I've heard who's ever called it "small").

What do you plan on putting in there that is making you reconsider the size of the tj07? With no modding you can fit a 480 and a 240 rad down below. With a little modding you can fit a 240 in the drive bays and a 240/360 on top. How much more space do you need?

1.)Ok I checked out some other worklogs ..and by what I have seen ..every 480 rad with fans mounted in the TJ07 is an extremely tight fit with the PSU installed.
That not only means that the PSU is constantly hit with hot exhaust air even if its fanside is turned around to the other ventalation side ...it also means that the heat exchange of the radiator can´t fully be executed because half of the 4th and 3rd part of the rad will exhaust directly on the PSU which will result in a cluster.

2.)I also noticed that because of the mm gap between PSU and 480 radiator I will not be able to use my straight barbs...so I would have to turn the raditor around to the other side so my barbs would fit.
It is a really tight space and fit in the lower compartment which reduces cooling performance at least that´s what people say ...I hadn´t realized that until I have seen the pics.
Also .....I might be willing du drill holes in the lower compartment to be able to screw the rad stand down...but I just don´t fill comfortable drilling bigger holes for cable management in a 300€ case.And everbody has been telling me that I won´t be able to cable manage without holes drilled even in the newer version of the TJ07 with the big Motherboard cutout.
So all those things made me reconsider my decision ...and I might go M8 as soon as Case Labs responds and tells me how much the M8 + shipping to Austria costs.


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Edited by Kung Pow - 1/27/11 at 5:02am
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so??
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow;12162843 
so??

PM sent. The M8/M10's are built around 360 rads (up to 3 in the case) to help keep it a little more compact, so a 480 won't fit. It will however fit in a couple of the upcoming "T" series cases.

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Originally Posted by Kung Pow;12160904 
1.)Ok I checked out some other worklogs ..and by what I have seen ..every 480 rad with fans mounted in the TJ07 is an extremely tight fit with the PSU installed.
That not only means that the PSU is constantly hit with hot exhaust air even if its fanside is turned around to the other ventalation side ...it also means that the heat exchange of the radiator can´t fully be executed because half of the 4th and 3rd part of the rad will exhaust directly on the PSU which will result in a cluster.

2.)I also noticed that because of the mm gap between PSU and 480 radiator I will not be able to use my straight barbs...so I would have to turn the raditor around to the other side so my barbs would fit.
It is a really tight space and fit in the lower compartment which reduces cooling performance at least that´s what people say ...I hadn´t realized that until I have seen the pics.
Also .....I might be willing du drill holes in the lower compartment to be able to screw the rad stand down...but I just don´t fill comfortable drilling bigger holes for cable management in a 300€ case.And everbody has been telling me that I won´t be able to cable manage without holes drilled even in the newer version of the TJ07 with the big Motherboard cutout.
So all those things made me reconsider my decision ...and I might go M8 as soon as Case Labs responds and tells me how much the M8 + shipping to Austria costs.


Here my WC gear: https://www.aquatuning.at/shopping_cart.php/bkey/9f6821b1530c1388fed22be1ed057908


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3.)GTX 295 soon to be replaced by GTX 595 that will be SLI´ed
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5.)2 x WD Caviar Black 1 TB
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8.)DVD RW , DVD , Blue Ray , maybe Fancontroller if not included in case

No I would just love for someone to reply to this post:)
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post #49 of 57
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OK it is settled...Because I am now certatin that I won´t be getting the TJ07 because of the reasons in my post #48...I will have to choose between M10 and a case from Montain Mods .

My absolute max is 400€.
M10 + shipping would be 386€ but it will ned another 100€ to be completed.
Is there a Mountain Mods case for 400€ that can beat the M10 in space and watercooling abliity?
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And a side question can the Phobya 250 Balancer be installed in the MM cases?
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I have the TJ07 and absolutely love it. Depending on where you put the radiators, you will be doing some modding regardless. I put a 360 sr1 in the top of mine for just cpu only cause i wanted a 480 in the bottom later on for a gpu/motherboard loop. You need to realize though, unless you do a batx murdermod to the tj07 you will not be able to put a thicker(black ice, phobya, feser, etc)radiator in the top due to motherboard clearance. Also with a 480 in the bottom you will not be able to use the hdd cases that are supplied for you. You will have to find alternate ways of mounting your hdd's. After looking at the pinnacle though, it would be a tough choice but due to 480 and 360 rad mounts just being handed to you, i would prolly go that route. In any case, heres a pick of mine just showing the 360 in the top.
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Good luck on your choice. They are both great cases.
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