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I think it's pretty clear, IB will offer almost nothing over 32nm SB. Slight improvements you'd except to see from newer products, but nothing major.
Aside from that I don't have a crystal ball, maybe 2011 will see a x12 chip or something, probably not but who really knows.
So the point is, if BD can match, or come very close to SB in single thread performance (if it can do that, it will undoubtedly beat SB in multithreaded). Then the difference between BD and IB will be core count and again multithreaded performance. All the users on here declaring that IB will annihilate BD could be very far from the mark, and maybe they need only wait until BD is released for a glimpse of IB vs BD, no crystal ball needed.
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Not sure, never had a AMD card in it.
from my view it looks like "compatibility bug " between nvidia - amd

i´m not experiencing low-load problem (even with x8 link)
    
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So the point is, if BD can match, or come very close to SB in single thread performance (if it can do that, it will undoubtedly beat SB in multithreaded). Then the difference between BD and IB will be core count and again multithreaded performance. All the users on here declaring that IB will annihilate BD could be very far from the mark, and maybe they need only wait until BD is released for a glimpse of IB vs BD, no crystal ball needed.
Pretty sure Bulldozer (at launch) on the home user side will come with 8 cores max. Sandy Bridge will come with up to 8 cores, 16 threads max.

Pie can you run 3d Mark Vantage Performance preset and share your score/gpu usage history?
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Intel did meet the 2009 and 2010 schedule for Westmere and Sandy Bridge respectively, at least in terms of production. They could have just as easily released Clarkdale or Sandy Bridge in November 2009/2010 instead of waiting until first week of January of the following year. Intel just happened to be able to afford delaying release until CES since AMD didn't really have something they could compete with.
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Intel's Tick-Tock cadence lasted from Conroe to Nehalem... then it fell apart. Westmere is a year late, Sandy Bridge isn't on the product roadmaps for 2010. Don't ask about the Haswell, CPU+LRB part.
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According to it, the Nehalem was planned and executed in 2008 [November 2008 launch], the Westmere die-shrink was scheduled for 2009 - OK, you get some dual core parts were shown off this month anyway, launching on January 7, 2010 with the first day of CES in Las Vegas. But the next major architecture, Sandy Bridge, was planned for 2010. But now, the 2010 roadmaps don't show Sandy Bridge at all! I'd really miss those Haifa-designed parts with all four CPU cores, plus a fast GPU, plus 8 MB cache and optimized DRAM controller - not to mention twice the per-core FP SSE throughput with AVX instructions.

Does it mean Intel is slightly slowing down the tick-tock clock? I still believe the Sandy Bridge will at least be shown in an advanced pre-launch stage at 2010, at the very least to stave off any marketing focus on the Bulldozer.
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I do believe they announced a change in the Tick-Tock release schedule sometime in 2009 when they delayed Westmere until CES 2010.
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from my view it looks like "compatibility bug " between nvidia - amd

i´m not experiencing low-load problem (even with x8 link)
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134458
    
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don't forget, reinforcements are on the way
    
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pietro sk, can you run 3d Mark Vantage on Performance preset and show your score/gpu usage history for it please?
    
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