Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared
Intel isn't scared, and they aren't doing anything new here. .
scared - is maybe bit harder word, but intel experiences threat from tiny Fusion now.
Bobcat has Atom wattage, and Athlon power. Bigger 3Mark total score is there as bonus.
Atom (,ULV) machines look now weak.
I can hardly imagine, what kind/size of threat are intel insiders expecting from bigger chip - Bulldozer
Originally Posted by HybridCore
I have the same problem. I'm still trying to decide. Also, I thought Ivy Bridge was coming in 2012.
Originally Posted by Plex
I thought the next "enthusiast" socket was 1365.
I also thought 2011 was the next server socket.
This thread confuses me.
1) + 2)-- true - it was presented like you said, but at the end of dec.2010 informations changed @ wiki (and other sources)
High-end desktop - is not existent, until LGA 1356 "comes back"
With these informations, it seems that SB will be available only as LGA 1155 stuff.
That only confirms what John said
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
When you go to smaller nodes you incur high costs at the beginning but then they flatten out over time.
If what everyone is saying about Intel is correct, then they are going from 32 to 22 pretty fast which means either a.) they do not believe that their 32nm will be competitive next to BD or they believe that b.) there are bugs in 32nm and it is cheaper to move to the next node than fix them.
Otherwise you'd milk 32nm becuase you can drive far more profit for your company.
Shortening lifecycles is a huge drain of profit that you wouldn't do. Those that suggest that they might be "running up the score" against AMD are probably wrong.
If they truly are trying to accelerate 22nm, then they are spending a lot of money (pulling in is expensive) so there has to be something behind it.
If 32nm was such a clean kill, they would keep things on 32nm, make more profit and bring in 22nm when they need it.
Don't believe the hype of "things are going so great that we are accelerating", my guess is that either everyone is wrong about the dates (a strong possibility) or they have a concern about either compeition or quality. Take your pick, but if you are ahead on process, you milk it, you don't dump more cash into it.
draw your on conclusion about intel futureEdited by pietro sk - 1/31/11 at 6:19am