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I have the same problem. I'm still trying to decide. Also, I thought Ivy Bridge was coming in 2012.
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post #132 of 164
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Intel isn't scared, and they aren't doing anything new here. .
scared - is maybe bit harder word, but intel experiences threat from tiny Fusion now.
Bobcat has Atom wattage, and Athlon power. Bigger 3Mark total score is there as bonus.
Atom (,ULV) machines look now weak.

I can hardly imagine, what kind/size of threat are intel insiders expecting from bigger chip - Bulldozer


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I have the same problem. I'm still trying to decide. Also, I thought Ivy Bridge was coming in 2012.
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I thought the next "enthusiast" socket was 1365.
I also thought 2011 was the next server socket.
This thread confuses me.
1) + 2)-- true - it was presented like you said, but at the end of dec.2010 informations changed @ wiki (and other sources)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...known_variants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_B...m_Sandy_Bridge compare it

High-end desktop - is not existent, until LGA 1356 "comes back"

With these informations, it seems that SB will be available only as LGA 1155 stuff.
That only confirms what John said
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When you go to smaller nodes you incur high costs at the beginning but then they flatten out over time.

If what everyone is saying about Intel is correct, then they are going from 32 to 22 pretty fast which means either a.) they do not believe that their 32nm will be competitive next to BD or they believe that b.) there are bugs in 32nm and it is cheaper to move to the next node than fix them.

Otherwise you'd milk 32nm becuase you can drive far more profit for your company.

Shortening lifecycles is a huge drain of profit that you wouldn't do. Those that suggest that they might be "running up the score" against AMD are probably wrong.

If they truly are trying to accelerate 22nm, then they are spending a lot of money (pulling in is expensive) so there has to be something behind it.

If 32nm was such a clean kill, they would keep things on 32nm, make more profit and bring in 22nm when they need it.

Don't believe the hype of "things are going so great that we are accelerating", my guess is that either everyone is wrong about the dates (a strong possibility) or they have a concern about either compeition or quality. Take your pick, but if you are ahead on process, you milk it, you don't dump more cash into it.




draw your on conclusion about intel future
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I belieave Intel is moving to 22nm so fast to stop AMD from having soo much sales and becoming popular.
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Who knows - but the original 45nm chips did about 3.8 GHz on air for both AMD and INTEL. Later revisions got that over 4GHz.

The first 32nm chip we've seen (sb) is doing 5GHz or more on air, and this is without any revisions.

Either way INTEL or AMD the future is looking nice, if 22nm is anything like 32nm was for 45nm, then we can except to see some insane clock speeds with a lot of cores.
    
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980x is 32nm, so SB isn't the first.

Anyway, aren't you worried about your hard drives, I wouldn't be spending what precious little life they have left posting on a BD thread!
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lol no I'm not worried about the sata controller for the chipset.

I've had it for 3 weeks now without issue, if I can't boot the HDD sometime down the road I'll just have to RMA it

Until then I'll enjoy mocking AMD x6 users for having slower multi-threading capabilities than an x4 that costs less, no need to mention the insane bottleneck AMD chips can provide.

I just bumped my NB volts up a bit, was gonna try for more than 5.1GHz tonight as it will be around -8C.
    
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Personally I'd go for bulldozer, I'm sick of intel's new socket 2 year tendency and anyway in real world performance I doubt you'd see any significant difference.
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Until then I'll enjoy mocking AMD x6 users for having slower multi-threading capabilities than an x4 that costs less...
Seriously what's the point?
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None, it was actually a joke. Meant to poke back at his comment about Intels problem with their sata controller failing after a time on the new P67 boards.

Try not to take everything so personally, you'll start to act like 1366 users.
    
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In Sweden Intel withdraws all SB mobo's cus their faulty.

So buying a SB now would'nt be too good.

Dunno how it's in your country tho
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