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AMD Bulldozer = Q2 of 2011
Intel Ivy Bridge = Q3 of 2011 or Q1 of 2012

Nobody except the developers are completely sure. AMD's Bulldozer architecture is definitely going to be released Q2 of 2011 this year. Even ask the AMD hardware rep.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BankaiKiller;12153889 
Unless you want performance with a better price.

We'll have to see, since AMD is losing at this point in that department.


Here is the link of what John said that I was referring to:

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/923393-leaked-vision-fx-bulldozer-performance.html#post12130813


From what I understand of what he said - gaming related performance is 5% of their income, it's not important. High performance chips aren't important either. But the way I read that is he believes we tie stock settings to overall performance, which we don't. We don't buy higher binned chips because they're a farce, we can take low end chips and overclock them well beyond what the factory offers, and 9 times out of 10 high binned chips overclock the same as low binned chips.

AMD is going to continue to offer highly clocked chips in the "mid ranged" area to compete with lower clocked INTEL chips which in the end overclock just as well if not better than the AMD chips...

And we're back to where we were with Phenom II vs Core i7/i5 again, AMD releasing 3.2GHz chips to look almost presentable in benchmarks vs 2.66GHz chips. Both of which overclock to around 4GHz, but as we know one of which performs much better at 4Ghz.

Overclockers are a very small part of the market, just like gamers, and high performance chips, so I highly doubt AMD is going to focus any effort towards these markets.




Ivy Bridge is 22nm die shrink of Sandy Bridge, INTEL is releasing x6 and x8 Sandy Bridge chips this year.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)

It seems to be on the 2011 socket, though who really knows. One things for sure, they won't be cheap.
Edited by BallaTheFeared - 1/26/11 at 3:03pm
    
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Originally Posted by Atomfix;12136367 
Yeah, as always AMD will have lower price's, Iv'e always been an AMD fan but I'm wondering if I should move to Intel again because Ivy Bridge should have better overclock capabilitys?

Look at Sandy Bridge compared to Phenom II series.. Sandy Bridge 2000K series processors can OC on air to about 5Ghz easy compared to Phenom II processors.
    
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post #44 of 164
Quote:
Originally Posted by obsidian86;12136352 
bulldozer late Q1 early Q3 ivy bridge Late Q3 or early Q4

ivy bridge will prob beat BD but i believe Bd will be better value

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post #45 of 164
You guys should really change the title of this thread.
By the time Ivy Bridge is out, there will be a new AMD chip on the horizon called "Komodo" for high end products and "Trinity" for the mainstream. Both will use Bulldozer cores/modules. THAT will compete.
Ivy bridge will NOT be coming out in 2011. It may use the same CPU socket, but you may have to buy a new motherboard anyway for the new chipset. Kind of like LGA775 between Core 2 Duo and Pentium 4.
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New sockets don't concern me, if the performance warrants it. If you can sell your hardware for a decent price, you usually don't lose much. It only cost me $35 to go from a used 1090T to a new i5-2500k.

Ivy Bridge, unless x6 become required for gaming - and if they're even offered on 1155 isn't a big deal.

Ivy Bridge is a Sandy Bridge cpu shrunk to 22nm fab, thats it. Some slight changes, probably slightly higher overclocks, but nothing major.

Maxwell, in 2013 is Intels next gen chip, Ivy Bridge is not.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared;12156682 

Maxwell, in 2013 is Intels next gen chip, Ivy Bridge is not.

You mean Haswell? biggrin.gif
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Yah, where is my coffee anyways?
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fRingE;12156356 
Look at Sandy Bridge compared to Phenom II series.. Sandy Bridge 2000K series processors can OC on air to about 5Ghz easy compared to Phenom II processors.

thats nice, 5GHz bragging rights look good.. (same like 1GHz years ago;))
but is it the only important thing on earth ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared;12156682 
New sockets don't concern me, if the performance warrants it. If you can sell your hardware for a decent price, you usually don't lose much.
It only cost me $35 to go from a used 1090T to a new i5-2500k. .
but if every user will change mobos, then it will be harder sell old stuff wink.gif
(and you will earn less, probably )
i can´t understand why SB is not compatible with 1156... really i see no reason
100% wallet sodomizing
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True but I can't see any need to switch to an IB chip anyways.

Because its all new tech, with a gpu fused into the cpu die.

Why is AM2+ ddr2 only? Why did AMD need to make a new socket for AM3 when the memory controller is on the chip anyways?
    
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