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I just ordered a new motherboard in order to have the option for X-Fire and faster RAM.

I have a 64GB Corsair SSD with W7 and a few things installed on it (I have 40GB Free). I have read that once all cells on an SSD are written to they noticably slow down. My question is:

What would be the best way to reinstall W7 onto my SSD without making it much slower? Should I format from a USB before installing W7, or something of that nature?

Any help would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 26
I actually recently learned the answer to this myself! It seems that the best answer is to use HDDErase (actually, it's "Secure Erase") as described here:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...o-use-HDDErase

I haven't done this yet, but I'm mentally preparing for it. I mean, I am planning on starting over fresh with Firefox where I normally just copy everything from its AppData folder so that I don't have to do anything except for re-installing the Plug-ins (like Flash, Shockwave, etc.). I mean, copying all of that data from the AppData folder means that I don't have to do anything to get it back to the way it was - even all of my extensions are installed. So that means I have quite a bit of work ahead of me once I do this. :/

However, I can help with making a USB Flash Drive into a bootable drive. I had to do this when I wanted to flash my GTX 465 into a GTX 470.
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post #3 of 26
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Wow!
I could not have asked for a better explanation, new parts come in tomorrow... I have no qualms about losing all my data, all I have installed is W7, Skype, Opera, and Vuze. Everything else is on my storage drives
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post #4 of 26
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Wow!
I could not have asked for a better explanation, new parts come in tomorrow... I have no qualms about losing all my data, all I have installed is W7, Skype, Opera, and Vuze. Everything else is on my storage drives
Nice! I have basically the same set up. I mean, that's why I have two SSDs. hehe

Y'know, it's funny: I'm kinda feeling ready to take this on today, so we might actually end up doing this at the same time.
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post #5 of 26
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Aie, I need to steal my brothers laptop and I will be ready haha.
I'd rather have everything like new for when I install the new mobo tomorrow evening ^_^
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post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dapopeman View Post
Aie, I need to steal my brothers laptop and I will be ready haha.
I'd rather have everything like new for when I install the new mobo tomorrow evening ^_^
Based on what I was taught, using HDDErase like this will bring the solid state drive back to factory-new condition. Plus, it only takes 1-2 seconds for HDDErase to complete! I mean, it has a warning in it that the process can take like an hour to complete, but it only applies to hard drives.
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Yeah, I formatted one of my regular 7200RPM 1TB HDs with the windows format tool, it had appx. 400gb of information on it and it only took about 30 seconds if memory serves.
I know it was wicked fast, so an SSD with only ~20GB of info on it will be instant I hope!
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post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dapopeman View Post
Yeah, I formatted one of my regular 7200RPM 1TB HDs with the windows format tool, it had appx. 400gb of information on it and it only took about 30 seconds if memory serves.
I know it was wicked fast, so an SSD with only ~20GB of info on it will be instant I hope!
That's different, though. Secure Erase (err, HDDErase) isn't just a standard format. Instead, it's something entirely different. I think maybe what's going on is that it's writing all 0s to the drive or something. But whatever the case is, I asked around a few times about whether or not this is "safe" for solid state drives because I was afraid of all the writes, but I was assured that it's not only safe, but highly/strongly recommended when formatting and starting over.

But regarding the standard format: the reason why it's fast is because the actual format process itself is just a process of replacing the Master File Table with a fresh/blank one in the specified format (which is NTFS by default, of course). The difference with that format process that takes like an hour is that it first performs a thorough error-scan and even attempts to fix any errors if they're found. And then once that scan is finished, it completes the job by setting the format of the drive which only takes a few seconds.

Oh, and there's still one thing I don't know yet: I don't know whether or not I will need to tell the Windows 7 installer to format my SSD after using Secure Erase. I mean, I don't know yet if that will be necessary. Although, I'm assuming that it is just so the format of the drive gets established. But what I need to find out is if the installer formats the drive anyway when clicking next at this prompt: http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/O.../image2_3.html:


Edited by TwoCables - 1/25/11 at 10:44am
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post #9 of 26
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Hmmmm, well if it bringing it back to stock I am sure it will not be entirely necessary.
Sounds like you just use it as if you just opened the box, plug and play!


hmmmm, I do believe it automatically formats the drive to whatever it needs to be if it is nto already correct.
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I think I'll ask right now in the very same thread that gave me this education. I can't help myself.
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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