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You remembered incorrectly. There IS a demo for Dead Space 2 on the 360 and PS3. Has been for a month. Not sure about PC.
I see, well maybe that's why I didn't see a demo for it, I don't care for games coming out on console. The only 2 games I have for my ps3 that gets played is GT5 and Madden 11. Other then those games I don't care what coming out for consoles. Especially if it's an fps, I refuse to play an fps on console.
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Theres a number of people here who haven't thought their arguments through. Who cares if the DLC was developed before or after the release, the timeline doesn't matter one bit.

Make your decision to purchase the game based on its completeness without any DLC included. Then don't buy it if significant parts of the storyline or critical features have been left out.
Edited by JasonCz - 1/26/11 at 6:30am
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Nothing is going to change if people keep taking it up the butt and throwing money at these developers for content that is being sold as DLC instead of being included in the game.
The sad thing is, is that there is another side to thinking like that also. Ok, lets all boycott the games that come out that are priced $60 and charge for DLC. What will happen?? Guess what....companies are not making money on PC anymore and will have more to complain about and therefore....even less games on PC. It's a lose, lose situation for us PC gamers. We can all boycott the price of gas also, but that won't get us anywhere...literally. There is just too much money in it for some people and that is all they care about.

Don't get me wrong, I hate what it has come to and the charging for everything. But, I will make my decision on whether I think it is worth it to "me" or not. Hey, it might be an awesome game and the DLC might be awesome to and worth it. It's not even out yet, so I'm not sure how people can judge it.

Now we got EA and Activision doing the same thing ($60/game and paid DLC). It won't be long till everyone is doing it.
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Theres a number of people here who haven't thought their arguments through. Who cares if the DLC was developed before or after the release, the timeline doesn't matter one bit.

Make your decision to purchase the game based on its completeness without any DLC included. Then don't buy it if significant parts of the storyline or critical features have been left out.
I guess the only way to judge it's completeness without actually buying it is by reviews or have a guinea pig tell you how it was. Either way you wouldn't be able to tell if it was worth the money until you buy it. I'm not going to discuss trial via pirating as that is a touchy subject.

At that point who is to say that the plot holes were because of DLC or just bad storytelling if no one buys the DLC.
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I guess the only way to judge it's completeness without actually buying it is by reviews or have a guinea pig tell you how it was. Either way you wouldn't be able to tell if it was worth the money until you buy it. I'm not going to discuss trial via pirating as that is a touchy subject.

At that point who is to say that the plot holes were because of DLC or just bad storytelling if no one buys the DLC.
I am in no way advocating piracy. If your unsure about a game, read the reviews. If the game gets good ratings without any consideration of the DLC, go ahead and buy it. Simple.
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I see, well maybe that's why I didn't see a demo for it, I don't care for games coming out on console. The only 2 games I have for my ps3 that gets played is GT5 and Madden 11. Other then those games I don't care what coming out for consoles. Especially if it's an fps, I refuse to play an fps on console.
Well that's just it, PC wasn't even going to get Dead Space 2 until the community demanded it. EA wasn't interested in a PC port so it's lucky the PC even has it right now.

And if you didn't have a console - I'd understand. But you do have a PS3 and probably access to PSN. What does it take to download a demo and try it out?

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Theres a number of people here who haven't thought their arguments through. Who cares if the DLC was developed before or after the release, the timeline doesn't matter one bit.

Make your decision to purchase the game based on its completeness without any DLC included. Then don't buy it if significant parts of the storyline or critical features have been left out.
I agree.
And the game is complete, and then some, without these two campaign missions. Especially with the fact that these campaign missions are supposed to cover a story arch that even Dead Space fans didn't know existed till now.

I can see how a team meeting with Visceral went.
"Hey guys, we're gonna port our Wii game to the PS3."
"But the Wii game sold only like 5 copies!"
"Damn - what are we gonna do?"
"How about he package it with Dead Space 2 in order to push limited edition sales?"
"Great idea! So now more fans will more or less be forced to know of it's existance!"
"But.... that also means the really bad and questionable ending will need to be fixed..... or we're going to loose credibility"
"Then - we'll fix it in Dead Space 2!"
"How the hell do we fit it into the game when it has nothing to do with it?"
"DLC"

It makes sense. The people who don't know or care about Extraction won't need to buy it.

I rather pay for DLC that I can play and helps the story rather than listen to audio logs or read passages. It's also not like this is some kind of "side quest" like alot of DLC has to do with. This is main story related, but as far as Dead Space 2 goes it doesn't fit.

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I guess the only way to judge it's completeness without actually buying it is by reviews or have a guinea pig tell you how it was. Either way you wouldn't be able to tell if it was worth the money until you buy it. I'm not going to discuss trial via pirating as that is a touchy subject.

At that point who is to say that the plot holes were because of DLC or just bad storytelling if no one buys the DLC.
The thing is here the DLC has to do with a seperate game that has nothing to do with Dead Space 2's story. It was meh story telling with Extraction's ending that left a hole open but how else are they to fix it? It's not like they can do another comic book or animated movie considering they have like 10 of them.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/25/de...chapters-brin/

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for the record DSG girl is:

been a "meme" of Joystiq for awhile. Quite funny when you catch her in their articles hidden somewhere.
But I've been hoping for an actual ending to Extraction for awhile. I'm tempted to play the PS3 version now instead of DS2.

Btw: if curious - the game is still as terrifying if not more so than ever.
No, it's not because the freshness of the idea is gone. You know they're grotesque creatures like you'd expect to find in a Doom version of hell. You know the power is going to cut out at some point. You know that they like to drop from the ceiling unannounced.

What I like about this Dead Space is it feels less empty. You see people running for their lives, getting attacked, etc. I just wished that some of those events were less scripted and allowed you to save some of them so they could fight on your side at one point.

So far the game looks good and is very fun. It still has the creepy feel, and does it well, and still does make you jump on occasion.
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Well that's just it, PC wasn't even going to get Dead Space 2 until the community demanded it. EA wasn't interested in a PC port so it's lucky the PC even has it right now.

And if you didn't have a console - I'd understand. But you do have a PS3 and probably access to PSN. What does it take to download a demo and try it out?
I've only had my ps3 since black friday. And the only reason why I bought a ps3 was for GT5. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't even own one. And I didn't know they were considering not even making it for pc, that is just ridiculous.
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Well that's just it, PC wasn't even going to get Dead Space 2 until the community demanded it. EA wasn't interested in a PC port so it's lucky the PC even has it right now.
Don't be so sure about that. Could've always been their plan to withhold the fact it was coming out on PC, so that they could get some extra press in the PC community, and look like they're listening to their customers. Your tone indicates they were successful, if it were in fact planned this way.
    
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I am in no way advocating piracy. If your unsure about a game, read the reviews. If the game gets good ratings without any consideration of the DLC, go ahead and buy it. Simple.
Yeah, I wasn't advocating piracy either which is the reason I avoided it. I was just stating there isn't really any better way to determine if the game is complete or worth your time and money other than reviews by sites or even your peers. But this is the same with anything you pay to experience. A lot of people relate something they don't necessarily enjoy to it being 'bad' and just spread the hate.

Another problem is that a lot of the reviews are about console ports so PC glitches are never even mentioned or are purposely left out. Glitches can also be the product of the hardware and software configuration of the user which makes problem tracking impossible. It's not hard to see why devs are embrassing consoles because of easier software development and wider audiences. (Please no flame war.)

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The thing is here the DLC has to do with a seperate game that has nothing to do with Dead Space 2's story. It was meh story telling with Extraction's ending that left a hole open but how else are they to fix it? It's not like they can do another comic book or animated movie considering they have like 10 of them.
I was more or less relating to all games with DLC and to address the concerns that a game isn't a complete product if it has DLC planned. We commonly think of the software development time as a limited quantity. That the game cannot be completed by the release date because there is always extra polish to be put on or glitches to fix. And the time spent on DLC or any extra content is a waste.

'The game isn't finished and they are making DLC.' Without buying the game or looking at the reviews we make this assumption that the game is full of glitches. Even with reviews we have to make this assumption. Not always the case but often enough for us to hate all DLC. There are some diamonds in the rough like Borderlands or Fallout 3 (regardless of the faulty Gamebryo engine).

Now I haven't seen too many cases where DLC does anything to hurt the original game content wise. They would tell you if they broke the game into parts and that you would have to buy each part for the 'full experience' (New Monkey Island series). Mostly just extra equipment or characters that doesn't take anything away from the game. If these didn't exist nobody would be complaining. Not worth it for you? = don't buy it. In some cases like this one it's a totally different story line or an addition to the story which is usually released later.
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