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    Asus GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II
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    MSI Twin Frozr II GTX 560
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post #21 of 36
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Originally Posted by Armastitium;12144017 
I like how all the reviews out there are reviewing the ASUS GTX 560 DirectCUII TOP edition and it isn't even on sale in the Americas yet. The regular version is though :|

hmm?
TD is selling the OC edition and newegg has the non OC edition
    
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Originally Posted by stupidcha;12144288 
hmm?
TD is selling the OC edition and newegg has the non OC edition

Nope, TD is also non OC frown.gif
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post #23 of 36
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Originally Posted by Armastitium;12144641 
Nope, TD is also non OC frown.gif

yep you're right

either way, the directcu 2 fails hard...
    
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post #24 of 36
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Originally Posted by mike44njdevils;12138932 
I love OCC's reviews...
Yup, great pics. In the word's of Rodimus Prime...

"You've reached the end of the road Galvatron!"

msiandasusgtx560coolers.jpg

Obvious, winner is obvious.
Edited by Jodiuh - 1/26/11 at 2:39am
post #25 of 36
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Originally Posted by MSIalex;12143930 
You already answered your own question: ASUS uses a larger fan vs. the TFII solution.

As for DirectCU II, go read the Tech Report review. It is *NOT* better and is the worst out of the 3 cards tested.

As for heatsink.... it's coming. Just not out of the gate.

Well since I am not a graphics card engineer I can not comment DirectCu II and I must say that I am so happy that I bought 460 instead of 560 DirectCu II by ASUS if this is the case. I am not convinced by the reviews so far which lately turn to be very biased (most of them) but I am accepting the fact that DirectCu II might not be as good as DirectCu I. However I am a believer that MSI Hawk Twin Frozr II is not the best factory mounted cooling solution out there for the 560s. But I do not want to spoil the topic of a Twin Frozr II and MSI fan and I will just say once again congratulations and hope to see more benchmarks and successes with the 560.
post #26 of 36
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Originally Posted by gokica;12147688 
Well since I am not a graphics card engineer I can not comment DirectCu II and I must say that I am so happy that I bought 460 instead of 560 DirectCu II by ASUS if this is the case. I am not convinced by the reviews so far which lately turn to be very biased (most of them) but I am accepting the fact that DirectCu II might not be as good as DirectCu I. However I am a believer that MSI Hawk Twin Frozr II is not the best factory mounted cooling solution out there for the 560s. But I do not want to spoil the topic of a Twin Frozr II and MSI fan and I will just say once again congratulations and hope to see more benchmarks and successes with the 560.

as of right now, the msi directcu 2 is the best cooler for the 560
just because the cooler is a old model does not mean it is in effective
+ the 560 should in theory run cooler or as cool as the 460 (which benchmarks show) because of the jump from 104 to 114

now if asus had a 560 directcu 1 then i would have jump the gun with that specific model but the only available benchmarks state that the twin frozr 2 is better than the directcu 2

from techreport
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post #27 of 36
OK, I am not here to stand on behalf of ASUS but when comparing the products two things can be taken into consideration (if the review is unbiased and professional and the ambient temperature is completely the same when running the tests):

1. ASUS is clocked 20Mhz higher and even more important
2. Different GPUs of 460 and 560 run at different voltages when loaded. The higher the voltage the higher the temps.

Again I am not saying that the results posted above are incorrect and that DirectCu II dominates. I am just not convinced. The best way is for one to compare both in one case for a longer period of time just like I had the opportunity to try both the MSI Hawk and the ASUS DirectCu 460 models. But time will tell.

And one more thing, regarding the system noise, I could believe more in these results because now we talk of 2 fans on the DirectCu II. We need to see their rotational speeds to come to more concrete analysis.
post #28 of 36
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Originally Posted by gokica;12148546 
OK, I am not here to stand on behalf of ASUS but when comparing the products two things can be taken into consideration (if the review is unbiased and professional and the ambient temperature is completely the same when running the tests):

1. ASUS is clocked 20Mhz higher and even more important
2. Different GPUs of 460 and 560 run at different voltages when loaded. The higher the voltage the higher the temps.

Again I am not saying that the results posted above are incorrect and that DirectCu II dominates. I am just not convinced. The best way is for one to compare both in one case for a longer period of time just like I had the opportunity to try both the MSI Hawk and the ASUS DirectCu 460 models. But time will tell.

And one more thing, regarding the system noise, I could believe more in these results because now we talk of 2 fans on the DirectCu II. We need to see their rotational speeds to come to more concrete analysis.

The Gigabyte in the techreport review is running @ 1000mhz = win imo.
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post #29 of 36
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Originally Posted by gokica;12148546 
OK, I am not here to stand on behalf of ASUS but when comparing the products two things can be taken into consideration (if the review is unbiased and professional and the ambient temperature is completely the same when running the tests):

1. ASUS is clocked 20Mhz higher and even more important
2. Different GPUs of 460 and 560 run at different voltages when loaded. The higher the voltage the higher the temps.

Again I am not saying that the results posted above are incorrect and that DirectCu II dominates. I am just not convinced. The best way is for one to compare both in one case for a longer period of time just like I had the opportunity to try both the MSI Hawk and the ASUS DirectCu 460 models. But time will tell.

And one more thing, regarding the system noise, I could believe more in these results because now we talk of 2 fans on the DirectCu II. We need to see their rotational speeds to come to more concrete analysis.

i think the issue at hand is that you're keeping the bias of the hawk vs. directcu from the gtx 460s

when i was about to buy a 460 a few weeks back, i was planning to buy the asus one because it was better

either or, this is had turn into good convo for later purchasers
time will only tell
btw the msi 560 was OC'ed to 1000mhz w/o a voltage boost (recollection might be wrong)

btw the gigabyte card is a beast but after all the RMAs with the 460 model im personally staying away from them.
    
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post #30 of 36
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i think the issue at hand is that you're keeping the bias of the hawk vs. directcu from the gtx 460s

Oh, I am sorry if I leave such impression. I am just trying to share my humble experience so far. But my mind is ready to accept new things and I am convinced that the cooling issue with these cards is not the Teorema de Pitágoras and things may change in the future.

Edit: It is obvious that MSI didn't do anything much to improve the cooler. The only thing is 2 pipes became thicker for 0.2 Fi. This will not change the world for MSI. While ASUS made a completely new design for which I can not say much at the moment. So maybe ASUS made DirectCu II worse than DirectCu I which I find very hard to believe at the moment. Thank you for your patience in this discussion.
Edited by gokica - 1/26/11 at 6:58am
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