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According to The Ultimate Sandy Bridge OC Guide


But you have to remember, the architecture is still quite new and we are still learning the best ways to OC this beast. And Sin wrote that we should keep it disabled for the moment. Not that it must stay disabled, or that that is best practice. His guide was based on the Gigabyte series of P67 boards.
Actually if you reread it he recommended that it be enabled for ASUS boards as noted in the parentheses. But I don't know what BIOS he was basing that off, because one thing I did notice is that the BIOS that came with the board would not let me disable it and OC at the same time but when I updated it to 1053 (I think?) then I could disable those power saving features and set a fixed multi just like the Gigabyte boards could do from the beginning.
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I have that thing like a bible on my laptop along with the P8P67 thread. And like I said, the architecture is still very new. Basing it off the original bios that was on these series of boards, they very well may not have played very nice or even allowed the features to be shut down. Hell, my own board came with bios 0403, which, if I am reading the Asus site correctly, was never even a release bios and was in fact pre release.

And I am certain as the bios gets revised, certain things that worked will change, and things that didn't work before will work now. Give it time. And as an OCer, the best practice you can have is keeping a notebook where you keep track of bios revisions, and all pertinent settings, timings and voltages for your successful overclocks.
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I was going off what people told me about ASUS boards. Even with newest BIOS update there were tons of complaints, espcially at the time i wrote that. Maybe they fixed it, but what I know and partly its from ASUS themselves, is that you can only OC with turbo multipliers and when Turbo is enabled EIST is enabled wether you disable it or not. Maybe they fixed it, that woudl be great, becuase i think its kinda stupid to make poeple have to use EIST.
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why dont you want turbo though? i find it awesome!

not doing anything ur cpu run at 1.6, running benchmark ramp up to 5ghz that is leetness
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why dont you want turbo though? i find it awesome!

not doing anything ur cpu run at 1.6, running benchmark ramp up to 5ghz that is leetness
It is nice but I never really cared for it. I just don't feel comfortable leaving voltages and such on auto control. When you use the EIST technology it is optimal to use the VCC offset mode so that it changes your voltage as your frequency changes. At stock I saw it going below 1v at the 1600 Mhz setting which saves power but if you want a low stable voltage when it ramps up the turbo you really have to use manual voltage. The offset voltage it was using for the turbo mode was not really optimal from what I could see, because I am now getting 4.8Ghz out of the same voltage it used for me to get 4.2 GHz, but then if you set manual voltage it doesn't bump back down when it goes to 1.6 GHz so it is just pointless to throttle your frequency down if it won't throttle your voltage down too, so I might as well keep the frequency high because I am not really saving any power or heat if all it changes is the frequency.

What really would be nice is if I could set my own custom voltage points, for instance when it is at 1.6GHz then I set the VCC to 1v, and if it is at 4.8GHz then I set the VCC to 1.4v.

Also I noticed in really short benchmarks, like 32M runs of wPrime that are sub 7 seconds, the SpeedStep actually gave me worse results... which I am guessing is due to the fact that it is not immediately max speed when the benchmark starts so it looses some fractions of a second but in real world it doesn't really matter.
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Guys, I don't know what the big surprise is.

All I did was: Go into UEFI Advanced mode -> Advanced Tab -> CPU configuration -> Disabled the last 3 options (C1E, C3, and C6).

I kept EIST ON!

Turning off those options prevents the clock speed to back down to 16x, and actually runs the CPU at the defined Turbo multiplier for each core (40x) in my case.

So it allows you to have a fixed clock, without the multiplier changes. Basically, you have Turbo clocks 100% of the time.

Why wouldn't Asus boards do this?

I'm running BIOS version 1053, BTW.
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Why wouldn't Asus boards do this?

I'm running BIOS version 1053, BTW.
Well, they didn't to begin with. The BIOS they were shipped with didn't let me disable those options... because once I set them to disable it removed the option to change the turbo multiplier completely, so it just ran at stock.

Now with the new BIOS, it seems they have changed it to allow you to run one frequency 24/7.
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Well, they didn't to begin with. The BIOS they were shipped with didn't let me disable those options... because once I set them to disable it removed the option to change the turbo multiplier completely, so it just ran at stock.

Now with the new BIOS, it seems they have changed it to allow you to run one frequency 24/7.
Well, I guess that's good news for us ASUS users

I knew Asus wouldn't disappoint! I'd rather much have my clock at a fixed value, thatn to constantly worry if the clock speed is kicking into turbo mode during games.

This way, I know my CPU runs the same clock 100% of the time.

And I prefer it this way. Just like I used to have on my LGA 775 system.
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Well, I guess that's good news for us ASUS users

I knew Asus wouldn't disappoint! I'd rather much have my clock at a fixed value, thatn to constantly worry if the clock speed is kicking into turbo mode during games.

This way, I know my CPU runs the same clock 100% of the time.

And I prefer it this way. Just like I used to have on my LGA 775 system.
Yep, I upgraded from 775 as well and it just felt weird to me to have all this varying clock stuff... I didn't trust it.
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Yep, I upgraded from 775 as well and it just felt weird to me to have all this varying clock stuff... I didn't trust it.
You also had the idle down-clocking in LGA 775 CPUs, but you could disable it.

It didn't really make much sense to be forced to run the CPU at either 16x or Turbo multiplier.

My CPU would never even run at the advertised clock speed of 3.4ghz. It would only be either 16x when idling, or Turbo clocks when under load.

Not fun.

But you're right, I didn't even overclock with the stock BIOS, because the minute I booted this system, the first thing I did was to update the BIOS, which was 1053.

So I didn't know that the stock BIOS didn't allow for this, hence me finding strange.
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