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So my dad is really getting into photoshop, and asked me to build him a computer to run it well. So here is what I want to fit into the smallest possible case:

i7-950, 3x4gb of Ram
GTS450 or similiar to run a Dell U3011.
2-1Tb Spinpoint F3s
1-128Gb C300
Media card reader, integrated or drive bay
1-Dvd drive
Seasonic SS-560KM

I'm looking to moderately overclock the 950 to 3.8-4.0 range, so some help with cooling solution once a case has been found would be appreciated.

So far it seems the CM Centurion 541 seems good, but smaller would be better. The Antec Mini P180 seems to fit the bill too. At a more expensive price point, the Lian-Li PC-V345B seems nice, as does the Silverstone SG04B. Any advice to help me in this sea of possible cases?
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Can't go wrong with lian li, they are also usually quieter than most cases. Are you going to water cool or air cool? That may affect your decision.

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Looks like a well rounded machine. I would go with lianli A05nb. This Case has excellent airflow for its size and can hold everything very well.


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the smallest possible case:
i7-950, 3x4gb of Ram
GTS450 or similiar to run a Dell U3011.
2-1Tb Spinpoint F3s
1-128Gb C300
Media card reader, integrated or drive bay
1-Dvd drive
Seasonic SS-560KM
Here is my recommendation.

Antec NSK3480 case with power supply (cheaper than the Seasonic PSU by itself)
It includes the EA-380 or EA-380D which is decent quality, quiet and efficient, and supports any graphics card with single 6-pin PCIe power connector (like the GTS 450). The case is also really small for a micro ATX tower. Your only limitation would be drive bays. It can handle the two HDDs, card reader (3½" ext. bay) and one optical drive, but that's all. Your SSD will have to dangle somewhere or attach using velcro/tape. TBH many people do that since to this day few cases outside of mini ITX have 2½" drive bays. The case comes with a 120mm exhaust fan and spots to put two 92mm fans in front. I've had good luck just running the rear fan, even with a GTX 285 in it (with more powerful PSU). The case is also made of thick steel, which means less vibrational noise, plus the front air path is baffled/indirect for lower noise and the two HDD mounts use softer grommets than any other brand. Seriously this makes for a quiet system

Core i5 2500K or Core i7 2600K (2500K cheaper, 2600K more expensive than Core i7 950)
These can very easily overclock higher than the Core i7 950, thus making them faster. They also run cooler even when overclocked, and draw less power. We're talking about very easy overclocks of 4.2-4.5GHz without even needing crazy cooling. You can even use cheap coolers like the Cooler Master HyperTX3 for such an overclock. Also, when idle these chips consume a tiny fraction of the power of the i7 950, so when your dad goes for a coffee break the system will be sipping power. I was testing one that idled around 62W for the whole system (i5 2500K @4.5GHz OC, 4GB RAM, 1xSSD, GTX 470). The difference between the i5 and i7 is the i7 has HyperThreading.

Asus P8P67-M or P8P67-M Pro motherboard (cheaper than any socket 1366 motherboard)
The 2500K and 2600K CPUs need a socket 1155 motherboard. Asus seems to have the best ones right now, consistently overclocking higher than others and with one of the better UEFI (the new BIOS). You can safely ignore most of the crappy Newegg reviews saying the board won't overclock because they don't know how these new CPUs are supposed to overclock. You overclock using Turbo mode multipliers - that's it! These new boards also have USB 3.0 and SATA 6G. The Pro version adds SLI support with two PCIe slots running x8/x8 versus the cheaper board running x16/x4 only.

4x4GB 16GB DDR3 RAM
The only real drawback of this platform is the four RAM slots, running dual channel. This is not due to lower performance, but fewer slots makes it more difficult to go beyond 16GB RAM. The P67 chipset supports 32GB RAM but 8GB modules are either very rare or not yet available, thus making 16GB the current practical limitation. Note that Windows 7 Home Premium has a 16GB maximum, making it a good match. If you went socket 1366 and wanted to max it out at 24GB RAM, you would have to go Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate to support the RAM amount. No need for expensive RAM, just anything 1333MHz/1600MHz data rate at 1.5v would work.

+ rest of your parts

The setup I listed will be cheaper, run cooler, draw less power and perform better, with the sole drawback being RAM limited to 16GB (for now).
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For some reason, when I was thinking of sandy bridge, I thought it maxed out at 8Gb; I forgot there are 4, not 2 slots. That was my whole motivation for the first gen i7. In that case, I will probably go with the 2600k and grab up 16Gb.
Anyone know if it is 16 across memory and graphics card like the situation in XP, or if it is just memory?

Now the question becomes, can the integrated graphics on the 2600k run a 1600p monitor for photo work? That would save money AND space, maybe allowing me a smaller case.
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Originally Posted by esp42089 View Post
For some reason, when I was thinking of sandy bridge, I thought it maxed out at 8Gb; I forgot there are 4, not 2 slots. That was my whole motivation for the first gen i7. In that case, I will probably go with the 2600k and grab up 16Gb.
Anyone know if it is 16 across memory and graphics card like the situation in XP, or if it is just memory?

Now the question becomes, can the integrated graphics on the 2600k run a 1600p monitor for photo work? That would save money AND space, maybe allowing me a smaller case.
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Physical Memory Limits: Windows 7The following table specifies the limits on physical memory for Windows 7.Version                  Limit on X86   Limit on X64Windows 7 Ultimate               4 GB         192 GBWindows 7 Enterprise             4 GB         192 GBWindows 7 Professional           4 GB         192 GBWindows 7 Home Premium           4 GB          16 GBWindows 7 Home Basic             4 GB           8 GBWindows 7 Starter                2 GB           2 GB
Since the memory limit is artificial, there's a chance you might actually be able to use the full 16 GB. If you want to play it safe, then go with Professional. Right now Amazon has a promo where you can get $30 off Windows 7 Professional with purchase of select hardware. That makes Pro just $10 more than Home Premium.

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Now the question becomes, can the integrated graphics on the 2600k run a 1600p monitor for photo work? That would save money AND space, maybe allowing me a smaller case.
You can use integrated graphics or you can overclock. You cannot do both.

The "problem" is that you can choose a P67 motherboard to use your own card and overclock, or you can choose an H67 motherboard to use the integrated graphics (with the same CPU) and lose capability to overclock.

There will be a future Z68 chipset that will allow both, but that is probably a few months away at least.

If you don't mind losing overclocking, then yes the integrated graphics can drive monitors up to at least 1920x1200 (but I'm not sure of more).
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So it would seem, that I should get a 2600k, not overclock it, and then use the improved integrated graphics. This would save significant money, and still be plenty fast for photoshop.

I REALLY like that A05nb, but if I go h67 and no card, I could most likely run a slim case instead, couldn't I?

Does anyone know if the integrated graphics can handle 1600p? That seems to be the swing vote right now between p67 w/card or h67.

Thanks to everyone for the help!
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doesnt photoshop support cuda for faster image processing? if so get a gts450 for cuda and overclock the 2600k
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the a05 has horrible stock airflow, the cpu gets decent air if you keep the back as intake, but a huge heat pocket forms right above the gpu, which causes them to get super hot. Modding in a top fan or two as exhaust takes care of this and makes it one of my favorite cases. but I would suggest the mini p180, its definitely the quietest.

The graphics on the K chips should handle anything at that res fine, unless you can somehow get your hands on 1600p blu ray rips, besides gaming.
but yes if you plan on using integrated graphics I would recommend going matx or mitx form factors, seems a waste to get full atx for no cards

the p180 would be a good micro atx case, for mini itx I would recommend the sugo series, I have two sg05s, any of the lian li offerings, or an antec isk 300. Also the h67 chipset still allows for IGPU overclocking, so you can bang that out a bit more
    
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