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I own a:
ATI Radeon 9250
Nvidia 7200GS
ATI Radeon 8800GS
Nvidia 9600GT
ATI Radeon 4650
ATI Radeon 4870

and NEVER had a single driver problems from either team. You guys should be ashamed of yourself.
post #72 of 159
I have no game performance complaints, and I've never had (nor can I see how it's possible for) a driver to kill hardware.

I have had a few game compatibility issues with both sides, but by and large, basic functionalities have been notably worse on ATI.

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Originally Posted by DullBoi View Post
Yeah same here!! I went from X5096 marks in 3DM11 to X6006,with Cat. 11.a Beta, yeah ATI drivers are SOOOOO bad. .
Most complaints aren't about performance.

Not that 3DMark scores mean anything in that area.

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If anyone thinks that one or the other has better drivers, you're naive.

Take a look at the NV forums or EVGA forums driver sticky, lots of issues.

They both have issues at one time or another, none worse than the other.
Well I can't recall an ati driver killing cards.

A more useful poll would be which driver version are you currently using.
I cannot use my ATI cards in my HTPC or on any system that needs more than one display. If that isn't a disadvantage, I don't know what is.

This issue has persisted for three generations of hardware, and at least thirty driver releases.

Not one ATI driver from the CAT 9.x to now will allow the HDMI out to scale correctly on my TV at 1080p.

I didn't even notice these issues until recently because I haven't had a 1080p, or a dual monitor setup, all that long. I originally thought it was a fluke...until I tried four different ATI cards in four different systems, with about thirty different driver releases, on three different monitors, and two TVs...same issue every time, every combination.
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I've never personally had many problems with ATI or NVIDIA drivers. It seems that most of the people who do use driver sweeper quite often, so maybe thats where part of the problem is. I think over the past year drivers have been improving though Still dont like nvidia drivers, lock up in some of my games.
this. 258.96 i didnt have any issues in bc2. but 260.99 i'm having a myriad of issues.
 
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I have no game performance complaints, and I've never had (nor can I see how it's possible for) a driver to kill hardware.

I have had a few game compatibility issues with both sides, but by and large, basic functionalities have been notably worse on ATI.



Most complaints aren't about performance.

Not that 3DMark scores mean anything in that area.



I cannot use my ATI cards in my HTPC or on any system that needs more than one display. If that isn't a disadvantage, I don't know what is.

This issue has persisted for three generations of hardware, and at least thirty driver releases.

Not one ATI driver from the CAT 9.x to now will allow the HDMI out to scale correctly on my TV at 1080p.

I didn't even notice these issues until recently because I haven't had a 1080p, or a dual monitor setup, all that long. I originally thought it was a fluke...until I tried four different ATI cards in four different systems, with about thirty different driver releases, on three different monitors, and two TVs...same issue every time, every combination.
That's your TV's fault, not ATi's. Change the view mode on your TV so it will display the PC connection properly.

I've been using an ATi card in my HTPC for years now.
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Drivers is the reason I'm going back to Nvidia next time and will probably stay with em. I cant overclock my HD5850 with external software without it having the wrong clock speeds for my dual screen setup which causes flickering like crazy. I know about all solutions to fix this, but it shouldn't be there in the first place. Been like this for about 1.5 years now. Sorry AMD/ATI but that is just unacceptable.
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Anyone that says they've "never had any problems" with either red or green drivers either is either flat out lying, delusional or just used them for a small fraction of features and/or a small amount of time.

Those with real problems aren't always PEBCAK.
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Most complaints aren't about performance.

Not that 3DMark scores mean anything in that area.

Ok.. lockups and bluescreens I've had are all my fault, OC too much blah blah, then on a side note most games I've played since I install 11.a lost there microstuttering, once again SOOOO bad drivers then.

Anyhow how can anyone say drivers are getting worse by looking at two screenies from polls, with about a total of 200 users each? I believe that theres is WAY more users using ATI/Nvidia than that, so this post is mute.

blah
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Drivers is the reason I'm going back to Nvidia next time and will probably stay with em. I cant overclock my HD5850 with external software without it having the wrong clock speeds for my dual screen setup which causes flickering like crazy. I know about all solutions to fix this, but it shouldn't be there in the first place. Been like this for about 1.5 years now. Sorry AMD/ATI but that is just unacceptable.
I hate to break it to ya, but Nvidia has that EXACT same issue. You CANNOT run dual screens on a single Nvidia card, and have it clock correctly. This is why I have two GPU's now. I didn't buy the 240 for PhysX, I got it so my 470 would idle correctly.

EDIT:
Come to think about it, my 4890 ran my dual screen setup just fine. So you might just be having a 5xxx series problem (which those ARE kind of common, but I'm not sure if its user error or not), user error, or you could have a legit driver problem. Because like I said, my 4890 ran both of my screens with ease, with NO issues at all.
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I only have driver problems with ATI/AMD when I watch youtube videos, watch HD videos, play games, or run multiple 3d applications.

Don't understand why my 5850 couldn't handle 2 3d applications at once when my GTX 460 can handle 4.
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