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I was thinking of getting the Dell Inspiron Mini 1018 http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-mini1018/pd.

I'm assuming I'll have no issues with this under Linux but I was hoping I could double check here. Would I need any drivers outside of what's in the generic kernel? Is the wifi stable? I'm not too concerned if I can't get the webcam working. Won't use it anyway.

Also if anyone has suggestions for any other netbooks I would appreciate input. Only thing I really need besides Linux compatibility is long battery life (8+ hours). SSD preinstalled would be wonderful. It seems all netbooks now come with mechanical HDDs and I really don't need the storage space.

Thanks.
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My main concern would be with the integrated video. Never heard of NM10
    
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According to newegg it's supposed to be the Intel GMA 3150 which sounds familiar enough that I think it will be ok.
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The only GMA that doesn't work is the 500 series. This is partly because it isn't really an Intel designed chip, but that's all on the wiki. =)
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The only GMA that doesn't work is the 500 series. This is partly because it isn't really an Intel designed chip, but that's all on the wiki. =)
The GMA is only partially supported. There was a poulsbo driver floating around for a while but with the GMA950+ almost immediately taking over, I doubt it is still being developed.

Newegg has three netbooks with the GMA500 and one is out of stock. I'm sure it's going to be gone in no time. I really don't know what they were thinking. They outsourced the driver to Tungsten. My netbook came with XP on it and it was terrible too. It was just a complete failure.

I just looked in AUR and they do have the poulsbo drivers and claim they support 3d. I will have to check this out.
    
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What distro where you looking at? I've yet to find one that delivers the same battery life I got in windows. But, compared to windows the speed of all but a few was vastly better. Unless you have more than a 6cell (48Wh 4400mAh or greater) don't expect more than 6 hours (this assuming you get one with a N450 which is a 6Watt TDP). With my Asus 1001P I get 6 hours but at the full 1.66GHz (as far as I know the CPU doesn't downclock). In windows I could squeeze 8 or more out but that was with the CPU at 800MHz and the fan almost turned off. The speed was abysmal to say the least with that setup.

As for drivers I think it depends on the WIFI card maker. Get the info on the card and search around is all I can say. If you get an Intel you're set. If not then hopefully ndiswrapper (or whatever it's called) works for you because I couldn't get it to work so that limited my choices to Fedora(slow and buggy), openSUSE(fast but a little buggy), and MeeGo(damn fast but for being "beta" not very buggy).

For a bit more power in a netbook you can go with Asus 1015PEM which has the dual core Atom which is only an 8Watt CPU TDP. Don't know if it will deliver on the 8+hours outside of windows but like I've said I've yet to find a distro that can.
     
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I'll most likely be trying Arch Linux on it for the first time. I'll keep it as light as possible booting to CLI and running plain DWM.

What power config do you run? I was just going to run the conservative governor in the kernel. The N450 and N455 support speedstep so it should work..

Windows 7 on one of these pretty much isn't happening. I tried it at a store and it felt like 2-3min of boot time. I'm going to try to cut this down to about 30s on Linux.

The wifi chip is a 8188CE. Unfortunately not yet in the kernel but I just found that Realtek carries drivers.

Thanks for the recommendation. I was starting to think about going dual core actually. Apparently the Atom N455 is less powerful than my current Pentium M laptop. Wasn't quite expecting that low performance.

Upon closer inspection my Celeron router scores higher too.
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I'll most likely be trying Arch Linux on it for the first time. I'll keep it as light as possible booting to CLI and running plain DWM.

What power config do you run? I was just going to run the conservative governor in the kernel. The N450 and N455 support speedstep so it should work..

Windows 7 on one of these pretty much isn't happening. I tried it at a store and it felt like 2-3min of boot time. I'm going to try to cut this down to about 30s on Linux.

The wifi chip is a 8188CE. Unfortunately not yet in the kernel but I just found that Realtek carries drivers.

Thanks for the recommendation. I was starting to think about going dual core actually. Apparently the Atom N455 is less powerful than my current Pentium M laptop. Wasn't quite expecting that low performance.

Upon closer inspection my Celeron router scores higher too.
I don't know what power config is built into MeeGo (if any) but even with the one's built into Gnome and KDE I still only got 6 or so hours. I tried Ebuntu but the wifi didn't work in it. My netbook has in the BIOS three power modes that you could access and switch between in windows. I did have nearly 8+ when using them in windows but I can't get them to work in Linux. They were different from Speedstep in that they set a new max speed. Haven't tried Jupiter yet but was looking at maybe trying it out in Fuduntu in the future.

When I used windows a year ago on this thing the performance felt just like my old Dell desktop with a P4 2.4GHz single core; though that desktop had less than 1GB or RAM which was DDR. It really gave me an understanding that depending on what you do you really don't need a whole lot of power.

The N455 never made any sense to me since it uses more power than my N450 and yet didn't seem to do anything better. The big limiting factor with the Atoms has been the "in order execution" design from the little I understand. I think the N550 is a good choice. Just wish I could upgrade my netbook. The N550 cost only $86.
     
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